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Ralph Thrale's goblet: Story »Ralph Thrale's goblet: Story »Below is an interesting account of the problems of tracing Thrale family genealogy, caused by the popularity of the name Ralph Thrale. It was written by leading Hertfordshire historian Chris Reynolds.

Are there any traditional Thrale forenames?

The most common Thrale male forename is Ralph and Thomas, closely followed by John and William.

Of the 15 direct male ancestors of David Thrale - owner of this website - five were called Thomas, three were Richard two were Robert, with one each of Ralph, Kenneth, Herbert and John. Other common Thrale forenames include, Richard, Alban, Norman and Peter.

Female genealogical records are less readily available. However, common Thrale female forenames during the same period include Elizabeth, Anne, Sarah and Mary.

Who is the earliest recorded Thrale?

The earliest record of any Thrale is thought to John Thral in the 1309 Subsidy Rolls for Bedfordshire and William le Thral in the 1332 Subsidy Rolls for Sussex.

The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale

Prior to Richard W Thrale's authoritative chronicles on the history of the Thrale family, this 1948 article by J.H. Busby was the leading account of the families history.

Sir John Lade

Sir John Lade, 2nd Baronet: 1778 portrait by Sir Joshua ReynoldsSir John Lade, 2nd Baronet: 1778 portrait by Sir Joshua ReynoldsOne of Henry Thrale’s sisters was Lady Mary Lade (1733-1802), who married Baronet Sir John Lade, MP for Camelford, on 27 May 1756. They had a son, also called John who inherited his father’s fortune and Baronetcy. It was said that Lady Mary Lade bore an illegitimate child for Colonel Sir Philip Jennings Clerke M.P. (died 1788) after the death of her husband. As Sir John the younger was born after the death of his father Sir John Lade, it is possible that Sir John Lade the younger was the illegitimate son of Colonel Sir Philip Jennings Clerke.

Arthur Murphy

Arthur Murphy: by Joshua Reynolds. Sale details  »Arthur Murphy: by Joshua Reynolds. Sale details  »Arthur Murphy (1727-1805) was a barrister, journalist, actor, biographer, translator and playwright of Irish origin, raised and lived in London. Arthur Murphy was one of the most popular comic dramatists of the second half of the eighteenth century, from which he made his fortune. He occasionally used the pseudonym, Charles Ranger.

Mr Thrale and Sarah Tarver née Fox

Alan Cristall identified that in the mid-1700s, a woman called Sarah Fox was married to a wealthy brewer named Thraile, who, for the benefit of his health took his wife to live in France and died shortly afterwards, leaving her a wealthy young widow. So far no one has been able to identify who Mr Thraile was and which brewery he owned.

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David Thrale

David Thrale in Chinchón: March 2003David Thrale in Chinchón: March 2003I am married to Michelle and have three incredible children, Natasha, Elise and Ethan.

Thomas William Thrale's military service

Thomas' China War Medal: Obverse viewThomas' China War Medal: Obverse viewThis page sets out what I know of the military career of my grand uncle Thomas William Thrale (1874-1928).

Richard and Mary Thrale grave 1755

St. Leonards' ChurchSt. Leonards' ChurchThe location of the tomb can be seen in this picture of St. Leonards' Church. You will have to look carefully as it is very small on this picture - look below the tree and above the path on the far left-hand edge!

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