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451 I certainly remember Aunties Gertrude and Ada, who ended their days in Croydon. They never married. Wilsher, Gertrude (I1585)
 
452 I certainly remember Aunties Gertrude and Ada, who ended their days in Croydon. They never married. Wilsher, Ada (I1581)
 
453 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Family: John Allen Cantlay / Ann M Snell (F803)
 
454 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Family: William M Cantlay / Lynn S Jackson (F804)
 
455 I noticed that Norman Thrale married Caroline Welch, possibly in Wheathampstead. I am very interested in knowing where she came from, as I am doing a family tree of the Welch family of Flamstead, Hertfordshire. I have gone back to 1767 but find I am stuck. Can you help please? Thank you.

Mrs M Mealey m.mealy@btopenwold.com 
Welch, Caroline (I261)
 
456 Illinois Weslyan Univesity after retirement Thrall, Rev. Charles Haven (I2333)
 
457 Illiterate Nobly, Alexander (I1948)
 
458 Illiterate - marked birth certificate of daughter Sarah Henrietta Wells with the mark "X". According to Lindsay Block, she was not a pleasant person and was of Irish ancestry. Staples, Jane Henrietta (I1547)
 
459 Image source: Stephen A. Miller
Mon Apr 05 08:01:37 2004

Hello, David

My Thrall line is: William, Timothy, John, John, Samuel, Samuel, Alexander, George Evans, Frank Gilcrest, Laura Ernestine. Laura Ernestine Thrall was my paternal grandmother. This line wandered around a bit in the mid 19th century, settled in SE Kansas for awhile (there is a place called Thrall, KS, which is near Eureka and was named after George E. and Frank G. Thrall. There is no longer anything there, however.) and then settled in Colorado. I have fairly good information on this line downstream from Alexander if you would like to have it. I've attached a few pictures: one of Frank G. Thrall, one of Laura Ernestine Thrall, and one of Laura Ernestine Thrall and George L. Miller, my grandfather, on a date.

Sincerely,

Steve Miller

Stephen A. Miller, CPA
Accounting for Value 
Family: George L Miller / Laura Ernestine Thrall (F1004)
 
460 Image source: Stephen A. Miller
[[Mon Apr 05 08:01:37 2004
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Hello, David

My Thrall line is: William, Timothy, John, John, Samuel, Samuel, Alexander, George Evans, Frank Gilcrest, Laura Ernestine. Laura Ernestine Thrall was my paternal grandmother. This line wandered around a bit in the mid 19th century, settled in SE Kansas for awhile (there is a place called Thrall, KS, which is near Eureka and was named after George E. and Frank G. Thrall. There is no longer anything there, however.) and then settled in Colorado. I have fairly good information on this line downstream from Alexander if you would like to have it. I've attached a few pictures: one of Frank G. Thrall, one of Laura Ernestine Thrall, and one of Laura Ernestine Thrall and George L. Miller, my grandfather, on a date.

Sincerely,

Steve Miller

Stephen A. Miller, CPA
Accounting for Value
Steve@SteveMiller.org]] 
Thrall, Frank Gilchrist (I2131)
 
461 Image source: Stephen A. Miller
[[Mon Apr 05 08:01:37 2004
Return-Path:

Hello, David

My Thrall line is: William, Timothy, John, John, Samuel, Samuel, Alexander, George Evans, Frank Gilcrest, Laura Ernestine. Laura Ernestine Thrall was my paternal grandmother. This line wandered around a bit in the mid 19th century, settled in SE Kansas for awhile (there is a place called Thrall, KS, which is near Eureka and was named after George E. and Frank G. Thrall. There is no longer anything there, however.) and then settled in Colorado. I have fairly good information on this line downstream from Alexander if you would like to have it. I've attached a few pictures: one of Frank G. Thrall, one of Laura Ernestine Thrall, and one of Laura Ernestine Thrall and George L. Miller, my grandfather, on a date.

Sincerely,

Steve Miller

Stephen A. Miller, CPA
Accounting for Value
Steve@SteveMiller.org]] 
Thrall, Laura Ernestine (I2718)
 
462 Immigrant to US on ship "Mary and John". When his wife died he remarried to the widow of Henry FOULKES, and a few years later they went back to England never to return. He left his land and house to his son. Hosford, William (I845)
 
463 In 1526 George, described as a yeoman, had been sued by Walter Phylip of Clarton Well, Middx, for the non delivery of malt at Clerkenwell. Thrale, George (I1177)
 
464 In 1913, he and two partners started the Wilt Twist Drill Company in Walkerville, Ontario. Thrall, Frederick Chaffee (I2227)
 
465 In charge of all supplies. Thrall, Theron Roach (I3110)
 
466 in childhood Thrall, Sonora (I2105)
 
467 In his younger days. Thrall, Ira (I1392)
 
468 In infancy Thrall, William (I1361)
 
469 in infancy Thrall, Clotilde Teresa (I1660)
 
470 in infancy Thrall, Lynas Anson (I1665)
 
471 in infancy Thrall, Mary Ella (I1810)
 
472 in infancy Thrall, Frank (I2004)
 
473 In infancy Randall, Charles W (I2232)
 
474 in infancy Thrall, Charles G (I2239)
 
475 in infancy Thrall, Nellie G (I2240)
 
476 In infancy Parker, Thrall (I2341)
 
477 in infancy Thrall, Lois (I2590)
 
478 In infancy Thrall, Arthur (I2686)
 
479 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Thrall, Harvey Dallas (I3275)
 
480 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Thrall, Harvey Dallas (I3276)
 
481 In Memory of CHARLES THRALE Sapper 159009 106th Field Coy., Royal Engineers who died on Tuesday 28th May 1918. Age 31.

Additional Information: Son of William Thrale, of 1a, Butlin Rd., Luton, Beds., and the late Sophia Thrale; husband of Edith May Thrale, of 74, Cravells Rd., Harpenden, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: SOISSONS MEMORIAL, Aisne, France Grave Reference/Panel Number: Location: The town of Soissons stands on the left bank of the River Aisne, approximately 100 kilometres north-east of Paris. The Soissons Memorial will be found in the public square. The memorial register is kept at the Mairie where it may be consulted. - Historical Information: The original British Expeditionary Force crossed the Aisne in August 1914 a few kilometres west of Soissons, and re-crossed it in September a few kilometres east. For the next three and a half years, this part of the front was held by French forces and the city remained within the range of German artillery. At the end of April 1918, five divisions of Commonwealth forces (IX Coprs) were posted to the French 6th Army in this sector to rest and refit following the German offensives on the Somme and Lys. Here, at the end of May, they found themselves facing the overwhelming German attack which, despite fierce opposition, pushed the Allies back across the Aisne to the Marne. Having suffered 15,000 fatal casualties, IX Corps was withdrawn from this front in early July but was replaced by XXII Corps, who took part in the Allied counterattack that had driven back the Germans by early August and recovered the lost ground. The Soissons Memorial commemorates almost 4,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom forces who died during the Battles of the Aisne and the Marne in 1918 and who have no known grave. The memorial was designed by G H Holt and V O Rees, with sculpture by Eric Kennington. 
Thrale (Charlie), Charles Ralph (I140)
 
482 In Memory of RALPH THRALE

Gunner 20567 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery who died on Tuesday 19th February 1918. Age 39.

Additional Information - Son of Norman Thrale, of Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY, ARCADE, Italy Grave Reference/Panel Number: Plot 4. Row C. Grave 5. Location: The town of Giavera is in the Province of Treviso. It is 12 kilometres east of Montebelluna and 14 kilometres west of Conegliano on the main road between the two places. Giavera British Cemetery is 500 metres north-west of the town close to the church. - Historical Information: The Italians entered the war on the Allied side, declaring war on Austria, in May 1915. Commonwealth forces were at the Italian front between November 1917 and November 1918. On 4 December 1917, the X1th and XIVth Corps relieved the Italians on the Montello sector of the Piave front, with the French on their left. The Montello sector acted as a hinge to the whole Italian line, joining that portion facing north from Mount Tomba to Lake Garda with the defensive line of the River Piave covering Venice, which was held by the Third Italian Army. The Commonwealth troops on the sector were not involved in any large operations, but they carried out continuous patrol work across the River Piave, as well as much successful counter battery work. In January 1918, an additional sector of the defence on the right was taken over by the Commonwealth troops. Between December and March the Royal Flying Corps carried out a large number of successful raids on enemy aerodromes, railway junctions, and other objectives. In March 1918, the Commonwealth troops on the Montello sector were relieved. Three Divisions (7th, 48th and 23rd) took over the Asiago sector in the mountains north of Vicenza, and two Divisions (5th and 41st) were despatched to France. In October, the 7th and 23rd Divisions were withdrawn from the Asiago Plateau to take over the northern portion of the X1th Italian Corps front from Salletuol to Palazzon, on the River Piave. These Divisions took a prominent part in the Passage of the Piave (23 October-4 November 1918) during the final Battle of Vittorio-Veneto. On 4 November the Armistice came into effect, and active hostilities ceased. Men who died in defending the Piave from December 1917, to March, 1918, and those who fell on the west of the river during the Passage of the Piave, are buried in this cemetery. GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY contains 417 Commonwealth burials of the First World War. Within the cemetery stands the GIAVERA MEMORIAL, which commemorates more than 150 members of the Commonwealth forces who died in Italy in 1917 and 1918 and whose places of burial are unknown. 
Thrale, Ralph (I270)
 
483 In The Diary and Letters of Madame D'Arblay, Volume 1, Fanny Burney wrote…

"Lady Ladd; I ought to have begun with her. I beg her ladyship a thousand pardons–though if she knew My offence, I am sure I should not obtain one. She is own sister to Mr. Thrale.

She is a tall and stout woman, has an air of mingled dignity and haughtiness, both of which wear off in conversation. She dresses very youthful and gaily, and attends to her person with no little complacency. She appears to me uncultivated in knowledge, though an adept in the manners of the world, And all that. She chooses to be much more lively than her brother; but liveliness sits as awkwardly upon her as her pink ribbons.

In talking her over with Mrs Thrale who has a very proper regard for her, but who, I am sure, cannot be blind to her faults, she gave me another proof to those I have already of the uncontrolled freedom of speech which Dr. Johnson exercised to everybody, and which everybody receives quietly from him.

Lady Ladd has been very handsome, but is now, I think, quite ugly–at least she has the sort of face I like not. she was a little while ago dressed in so showy a manner as to attract the doctor's notice, and when he had looked at her some time, he broke out aloud into this quotation:

"With patches, paint, and jewels on, Sure Phillis is not twenty-one But if at night you Phillis see, The dame at least is forty-three!"

I don't recollect the verses exactly, but such was their purport.

"However," said Mrs. Thrale, "Lady Ladd took it very good- naturedly, and only said, 'I know enough of that forty-three?I don't desire to hear any more of it.'" 
Thrale, Lady Mary (I85)
 
484 In the Windsor Church records of this period Timothy Thrall is grouped with the men who had a family, a horse and two yokes of oxen, so it would appear that he was a better businessman than his brother-in-law, John Hosford Hosford, however, is on two military lists. First on a list dated 11 March 1658 of 37 Windsor men in the first horse troops (30 horse) in the colony. Second, he was paid 6s 8d for fighting in King Philip's War.

Both men protested the town vote to invite Mr. Chauncy to replace the aging Rev. Wareham as minister of the Windsor Church in 1662. When the 54 dissenting members were allowed to form their own church, the brothers-in-law went with them and became leaders of the Second Church. This new congregation were more Presbyterian than Congregational, and opposed to Chauncy's ideas. This sort of schism was occuring throughout all the New England colonies and therefore the Windsor dissenters, when they appealed to the Colonial Council, were less harshly treated than they might have been. In the end, after years of wrangling, which split the town, the two Windsor Churches reunited The first overtures were made by the Second Church, who sent John Hosford, Timothy Thrall and Jacob Gibbs to negotiate.

Timothy Thrall was a land-owner. He had his own place, or did soon after his marriage in 1659. His father-in-law, Thomas Gunn, gave him the original Gunn homestead and lot, as well as Gunn's land on the other side of the River. Timothy moved to a new house and again he was a leader in the forming of a new Church. Timothy was, we assume, honest and able, as he was named as executor in several wills.

Deborah Gunn is mentioned in Old Windsor records. Her father moved in 1665, to Westfield, Mass. and became active in the Westfield Parish, leaving all his Windsor property to his son-in-law.

--------------------------------------- "Timothy was a prominent citizen, possessing considerable property and influence. His name often appears in the records of Windsor." Source Genealogy of Walter G Thrall 1862 
Thrall, Timothy (I331)
 
485 In various phases of the finance and investment business since leaving the Thrall farm more than forty years ago. Such employment has included insurance underwriting, real estate brokerage, and the oil and Canadian gold mining industries. Thrall, Clyde Lowell (I2984)
 
486 In youth Thrall, Charles Edwin (I2098)
 
487 in youth Thrall, Riley M (I2102)
 
488 Infant death Thrall, John Hiram (I1586)
 
489 Inheireted land from the Allyn family. Was active in local and colony affairs. Thrall, Captain Timothy (I333)
 
490 Inhereited from grandfather Samuel Thrall. Thrall, Luther (I415)
 
491 Inherieted from grandfather Samuel Thrall. Thrall, Reuben Rose (I417)
 
492 Inherited the farm of 200 acres at the death of his father, and followed agricultural pursuits all his life. Thrall, Daniel (I1170)
 
493 Isaac's birth place may have been Johnston, New York. Thrall, Isaac (I193)
 
494 It is said in the family that ordinarily Jews were not allowed to live in Saint Petersburg without special consent. In Lewis's cases this was granted because he made a great invention. Unfortunately it is not known what that invention was. Bloch, Lewis (I1056)
 
495 It is said that Simmie Marks was one of 22 children. Marks (Simmie), Sidney (I388)
 
496 It is speculated that she bore an illegitimate child for Colonel Sir Philip Jennings Clerke M.P. (died 1788) after the death of her husband Sir John Lade. Lade, Baronet Sir John M.P. (I89)
 
497 It is thought that there MIGHT be another daughter called Alice? Family: Thomas Henry Thrale / Alice M (F418)
 
498 It is thought that there was a brother of Stanley Victor with the nickname 'Chick'. It is not thought to have been Joseph. Family: Thomas Henry Thrale / Alice M (F418)
 
499 It was a double wedding, as Howard's cousin, Oliver Thrall married Ella's sister, Mammie on the same day. Family: Howard Churchill Thrall / Ella Whiting Clark (F746)
 
500 It was a double wedding, as Oliver's cousin, Howard Thrall married Mamie's sister, Ella on the same day. In 1965 Oliver and mamie had travelled extensively and were still active. Family: Oliver J Thrall / Mammie L Clark (F742)
 

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