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John Salusbury

Male 1710 - 1762  (52 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Salusbury was born in 1710 in Bach-y-Craig, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 18 Dec 1762.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Note: Hester Maria's brother (Sir Robert Salusbury Cotton) sought to protect his sister Hester Maria from her husband John Salusbury. John Salusbury had squandered his own money and was starting to dip into his sister's money. Sir Robert Salusbury Cotton offered his sister Hester Maria and daughter Hester Lynch the use of his London home in Albermarle Street if they would make a break from him. Sir Robert also intended to change his will leaving his estate to Hester Lynch, but he died before his Will was changed. Hester later wrote …
      "at which period we left Wales and came to my uncle's house in Albemarle Street, where he told my mother he should follow in less than 2 months; make a new will, and leave poor Fiddle 10,000. ... I fancy some rough words passed concerning this by my uncle certainly but ill-brooked my father's pride, and he still less willingly endured being informed that, if his quality friends would provide him some distant establishment, my mother and myself should share the old baronet's fortune."
    • Occupation: 1749, Nova Scotia, Canada; British Governor
    • Note: 17 Sep 1803; Hester Lynch Thrale wrote in Thraliana …
      A new vault has been constructed under the Altar at Dymerchion for his and my last cold Residence, & narrow Apartment—Poor dear old Lucy Salusbury my admirable Progenetrix & Mother to my Father Was found crumbling in Dust; her Skull only whole, & the Black Ribbon pinned round it, that I suppose bound her head in its last Agony —There was no Act then extant for burying in Woollen. My Father being wrapt in Lead was easily discerned from his Brothers, & dear Mama—as he called her to the Last—They had never found Money to make themselves a Vault, so their poor Bones have been gathered up now by Mr Piozzi, and placed decently in our new Repository, where ours will shortly accompany them no doubt: to the great Joy of all my Daughters who really have now waited my Death so long—They are justified in their Impatience. New Pulpit Cloths—new Reading Desk Bible & Surplices—& a new Brass Chandelier—in Lieu of a Wooden one—are among my present Master’s Donations—beside Slating & Glazing & painting & Whitewashing: & what our Curate Mr Roberts prefers to all—Enlarging his little Church in the Gallery-Part—& we will put up the old curious Cross wch some fools pulled away 40 Years ago— & make all smart and handsome.

    Notes:

    John Salusbury's Patron was Lord Halifax, Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland and President of the Board of Trade in October 1748 (a title for a ministerial post in the British Government).

    John Salusbury appears in the background of Zoffany's painting of his widow.

    John married Hester Maria Cotton in 1738. Hester (daughter of Sir, 2nd Baronet Thomas Cotton and Philadelphia Lynch) was born in 1707 in Tremeirchion, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales; died on 18 Jun 1773 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Frances Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 3. Hester Lynch Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 16 Jan 1741 in Bodvel, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died on 2 May 1821 in Clifton, Gloucestershire, England; was buried on 16 May 1821 in Church of Corpus Christi, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Frances Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1)

    Notes:

    Name:
    Niece Frances Thrale named in her honour.


  2. 3.  Hester Lynch SalusburyHester Lynch Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 16 Jan 1741 in Bodvel, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died on 2 May 1821 in Clifton, Gloucestershire, England; was buried on 16 May 1821 in Church of Corpus Christi, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Note: Her mother's brother Sir Robert Salusbury Cotton sought to protect her from her husband John Salusbury, who had squandered his own money and was starting to dip into her money too. Sir Robert Salusbury Cotton offered his sister Hester Maria and daughter Hester Lynch the use of his London home in Albermarle Street if they would make a break from him. Sir Robert also intended to change his will leaving his estate to Hester Lynch, but he died before his Will was changed. Hester later wrote …
      … at which period we left Wales and came to my uncle's house in Albemarle Street, where he told my mother he should follow in less than 2 months; make a new will, and leave poor Fiddle 10,000 ... I fancy some rough words passed concerning this by my uncle certainly but ill-brooked my father's pride, and he still less willingly endured being informed that, if his quality friends would provide him some distant establishment, my mother and myself should share the old baronet's fortune.
    • Property: Brynbella, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales
    • Property: Bodvel, Caernarvonshire, Wales; Cottage
    • Publication: London, England; Thraliana - The diary of Mrs Hester Lynch Thrale (later Mrs Piozzi)
    • Note: 19 Oct 1775 - 20 Oct 1775
    • Physical Description: 1777 - 1778
    • Property: 31 May 1781, Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; Sale of brewery inherited from husband
    • Note: 15-23 July 1782
    • Note: 28 Nov 1784; Fanny Burney asked Samuel Johnson, shortly before his death on 13 December 1784, if he ever heard from Hester. Johnson replied …
      No, nor write to her. I drive her quite out of my mind. If I meet with one of her letters, I burn it instantly. I have burnt all I can find. I never speak of her and I desire never to hear of her anymore. I drive her, as I said, wholly from my mind.
    • Publication: 26 Mar 1786; Anecdotes of the Late Samuel Johnson, LL.D. During the Last Twenty Years of His Life by Hester Thrale, was first published 26 March 1786
    • Note: 27 Jan 1791; Hester Lynch Thrale wrote in Thraliana
      Here’s my Birthday returned; the first I have spent at Streatham for many Years, and quite the happiest I ever did spend there: Our daughter who lives in the house with us—Cecilia—much improved, & growing handsome as well as tall & rich; good as her Neighbours too, for ought I see; though without much Love of Study, or Regard for me, all goes well between us; and her Papa as She calls him, has a very solid kindness & true Goodwill towards her. I find he is of Opinion that Cator is no honest Guardian to those Girls, but I suppose they would rather be robbed by him, than saved by us.
    • Physical Description: 1793
    • Godparent / sponsor: Aug 1794; Hester Lynch Thrale née Salusbury became Godmother to Cecilia Siddons, daughter of Sarah Siddons. Cecilia Siddons was named after Cecilia Margaretta Thrale.
    • Publication: 1801; Retrospection or A review of the most striking and important events, characters, situations and their consequences which the last eighteen hundred years have presented to the view of mankind by Hester Lynch Piozzi
    • Note: 17 Sep 1803; Hester Lynch Thrale wrote in Thraliana …
      A new vault has been constructed under the Altar at Dymerchion for his and my last cold Residence, & narrow Apartment—Poor dear old Lucy Salusbury my admirable Progenetrix & Mother to my Father Was found crumbling in Dust; her Skull only whole, & the Black Ribbon pinned round it, that I suppose bound her head in its last Agony —There was no Act then extant for burying in Woollen. My Father being wrapt in Lead was easily discerned from his Brothers, & dear Mama—as he called her to the Last—They had never found Money to make themselves a Vault, so their poor Bones have been gathered up now by Mr Piozzi, and placed decently in our new Repository, where ours will shortly accompany them no doubt: to the great Joy of all my Daughters who really have now waited my Death so long—They are justified in their Impatience. New Pulpit Cloths—new Reading Desk Bible & Surplices—& a new Brass Chandelier—in Lieu of a Wooden one—are among my present Master’s Donations—beside Slating & Glazing & painting & Whitewashing: & what our Curate Mr Roberts prefers to all—Enlarging his little Church in the Gallery-Part—& we will put up the old curious Cross wch some fools pulled away 40 Years ago— & make all smart and handsome.
    • Note: 27 Jan 1804, Brynbella, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales; On her 63rd birthday she wrote in Thraliana
      My Birthday—Grand Climacteric,—kept very I chearfully: thank God; & all the little Children of the Village & Cottages in our Parish to the amount of 60 as I remember, came & eat Plumb Pudden, 40 very good Girls & Boys, had 6d each for singing & saying their Catechism so well. & Mr Roberts made some affecting Verses celebrating their Benefactress’s Birthday &c—all very comfortable, very happy indeed.

    Notes:

    http://www.thrale.com/hester_thrale_1741_1821

    Hester married Henry Thrale, M.P. on 11 Oct 1763 in Saint Anne's Church, Soho, Middlesex, England. Henry (son of Ralph Thrale, M.P. and Mary Dabbins) was born between 1724 and 1730 in Harrow Corner, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 4 Apr 1781 in Grosvenor Square, Middlesex, England; was buried on 11 Apr 1781 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Hester Maria Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Sep 1764 in Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 31 Mar 1857 in Piccadilly, Middlesex, England; was buried in Overton Kirkyard, Tulliallan, Fife, Scotland.
    2. 5. Frances Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Sep 1765 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 6 Oct 1765 in Southwark, Surrey, England; was buried on 8 Oct 1765 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    3. 6. Henry Salusbury Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Feb 1767 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 23 Mar 1776 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; was buried on 28 Mar 1776 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    4. 7. Anna Maria Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Apr 1768 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 21 Mar 1770 in Dean Street, Middlesex, England; was buried on 23 Mar 1770 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    5. 8. Lucy Elizabeth Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Jun 1769 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 22 Nov 1773 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried on 26 Nov 1773 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    6. 9. Susannah Arabella Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 May 1770 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 5 Nov 1858 in Knockholt, Kent, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    7. 10. Reverend George Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1770; died in 1842; was buried in Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England.
    8. 11. Sophia Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Jul 1771 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1824 in Sandgate, Kent, England; was buried in Nov 1824.
    9. 12. Penelope Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Sep 1772 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 15 Sep 1772 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    10. 13. Ralph Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Nov 1773 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 13 Jul 1775 in Brighton, Sussex, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    11. 14. Frances Anna Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 4 May 1775 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 9 Dec 1775 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    12. 15. Cecilia Margaretta Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Feb 1777 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 1 May 1857 in Brighton, Sussex, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    13. 16. Henrietta Sophia Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 21 Jun 1778 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 25 Apr 1783 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    14. 17. (miscarried) Thrale  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Aug 1779 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 10 Aug 1779 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England.

    Hester married Gabriel Mario Piozzi on 23 Jul 1784 (Catholic ceremony). Gabriel (son of Domenico Piozzi and Giancoma) was born before 8 Jun 1740; died on 26 Mar 1809 in Brynbella, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales; was buried in Bach-y-Craig, Denbighshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Sir John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Sep 1793; died on 18 Dec 1858 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 19. (miscarried daughter) Piozzi  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Jan 1788; and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Hester Maria ThraleHester Maria Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 17 Sep 1764 in Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 31 Mar 1857 in Piccadilly, Middlesex, England; was buried in Overton Kirkyard, Tulliallan, Fife, Scotland.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Note: She was describes as being smart and proud, but cold and proud.
    • Note: 9 Apr 1771; Samuel Johnson was devoted to Queeney and referred to as…
      Sweet, dear, pretty, little Miss.
    • Note: 8 Dec 1774; She produced a mock-solemn covenant …
      Streatham December the 8th at night, 1774;,
      I promise to work for two full hours at her Italian every day as Mr. Barretti shall instruct me. And I promise further, that, whether I am in good humour or out of humour, I will be in earnest and very attentive to my lesson, as if I were in the very best humour, nor will I look about me with a vacant and weary countenance, so that the said Mr. Barretti (alias Taskmaster) shall have no reason, no, not the least shadow of a reason to complain of my disattention, unwillin(gn)ness, and reluctance.

      signed by Hester with her full name and her seal, and witnessed by:
      Tutor Barretti left Streatham a month later.
    • Note: 19 Oct 1775 - 20 Oct 1775
    • Physical Description: 1777 - 1778
    • Note: Aug 1778; She became close friends with Fanny Burney & after Burney's first visit to Streatham Park she wrote …
      Miss Thrale is a very fine girl, about fourteen years of age, but cold and reserved, though full of knowledge and intelligence.
    • Note: 20 Jan 1779; Her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      My second Daughter Susanna Arabella who will not yet be nine Years old till next May, can at this moment read a French Comedy to divert herself, and these very holy days her Amusement has been to make Sophy & sometimes Hester help her to act the two or three 1 st Scenes of Moliere)'s Bourgeouis Gentilhomme: add to this that She has a real Taste for English Poetry, and when Mr Johnson repeated some of Dryden's Musick Ode the other day, She said She had got the whole poem & Pope's too upon the same Subject by Heart for her own Amusement.—

      Her Knowledge of Arithmetick goes no farther than the four Rules, but She has worked a Map of Europe, and has a Comprehensive Knowledge of Geography that would amaze one.
    • Note: Jul 1779; Aged 9, her mother wrote in Thraliana …
      Susan & Sophy are fine Girls, and promise to be a Credit & Comfort to their Parents, neither do I yet see any Disposition in the Eldest that need give one pain.
    • Note: Jul 1780; Hester Lynch Piozzi wrote in Thraliana whilst in Brighton
      I have picked up Piozzi here, the great Italian singer. He is amazingly like my father. He shall teach Hester.
    • Note: 17 Sep 1780; On her 16th birthday, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      It is this day given me by God to see my first born offspring, my dear Hester,—sixteen Years old— virtuous in Heart, prudent in Behaviour, pleasing in Person, & accomplished in Knowledge.

      What more would I have! & yet I often catch myself complaining.—Oh God forgive my foolish repining Spirit; and give me Grace to be thankful for, & to enjoy the Blessings I do not deserve.

      We always have a Dance on her Birthday for the Servants, and they shall have it this Year too—in spite of past Sorrows. Mr Johnson's Birthday is the next day to hers, & we keep them together, &. fill the [[Streatham Park#Samuel Johnson’s summer house|Summer House]] with Food, Fiddles &c, today being Sunday, the Balls must be tomorrow & Tuesday.

      Sure nothing will ever happen that will keep me from rejoycing on the 17: & 18: of September, the Birthdays of my Daughter & my Friend.,—.
    • Note: 26 Jul 1781; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Doctor Johnson has undertaken to teach my eldest Daughter Latin and has actually undertaken & begun his Work. Fanny Burney, Author of Evelina is to learn with her of the same Master — Mr Thrale says it is better to teach each of them than a Thousand pounds added to their Fortune. Dear Creatures! How earnestly do I wish them Success! they love one another and will improve by studying together—what a Master they have too! Happy Rogues!—
    • Note: 17 Sep 1781; On her 17th birthday, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Oh Lord accept my grateful and Heartfelt Thanks for having lived to see her attain this proximity to Womanhood, & permanent Duration. She is however still delicate in her Health I think, & mightily tormanted with Worms.
    • Note: 1 Jan 1782; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      She is a prudent Child indeed, I would wish to consult her on every occasion: so much sound Judgment, so little Vanity, such proper Notions of this World, & such Aspiration after a better have I yet never seen in a Creature of her Age:

      The Marquis of Caermarthen son to the present Duke of Leeds, & elder Brother to. I this Cuckoldly Marquis, appeared to me to be the Person most resembling her for Perfections of Body & Mind:—beautiful, pious, wise and well accomplished was the late Lord Caermarthen.

      Hester is however deficient enough in the _petite morale_: not caressing, not even _attentively_polite; never appearing pleased either with herself or Companions, She will not I fancy be a sought-for Character.
    • Note: Jul 1784
    • Note: 17 Sep 1803; On her 39th birthday 17 September 1803, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Here is Miss Thrale's Birthday come round again, the weather beautiful, & I hope my heart grateful for having lived to see my eldest child 39 years old—& just now not unkind at all—

      She has written once or twice this year, & in the last Letters some Compassion was exprss'd fo Mr Piozzi's Sufferings—They are indeed very great—Well!

      God bless her, & him.
    • Education: 21 Jun 1805; She told her mother in a letter that she would never have dared to learn Hebrew if she had not been told that:
      The Illeterate and Itinerant Preachers of Methodism up & down, all study Hebrew, to torment the clergy.
    • Physical Description: 1822
    • Note: 1832, Thrale Almshouses (1832-1930), Streatham High Road, Streatham, Surrey, England; The four daughters of Henry & Hester Thrale established almshouses for poor single women of Streatham.
    • Note: 1832, Thrale Almshouses (1832-1930), Streatham High Road, Streatham, Surrey, England; The four daughters of Henry & Hester Thrale established almshouses for poor single women of Streatham.
    • Census: 30 Mar 1851, Bolsover Castle, Bolsover, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England; Visitor to the household with mother.

    Notes:

    Christened:
    by Rev James Evans

    Name:
    Had a variety of nicknames used less frequently than Queeney, including Nig. Niggy. Tit. Birdey. Hetty. Samuel Johnson affectionately called her Sweeting.

    Hester married Admiral George Keith, Elphinstone, GCB, 1st Viscount Keith on 10 Jan 1808 in Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England. George was born on 7 Jan 1746 in Elphinstone Tower, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland; died on 10 Mar 1823; was buried in Overton Kirkyard, Tulliallan, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Honourable Georgina Augusta Henrietta Keith  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Dec 1809; died on 21 Sep 1892; was buried in Overton Kirkyard, Tulliallan, Fife, Scotland.

  2. 5.  Frances Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 27 Sep 1765 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 6 Oct 1765 in Southwark, Surrey, England; was buried on 8 Oct 1765 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Christening: 3 Oct 1765, St Saviour's Church (now Southwark Cathedral) Southwark, Sussex, England

    Notes:

    Name:
    Named after maternal aunt Frances Salusbury.

    Birth:
    During and after the birth Mrs. Thrale was under great stress from rushing around as part of Mr. Thrale's successful parliamentary election campaign, the death of the incumbent MP Alexander Hume. Mr. Thrale announced his running four days before Frances was born.

    Buried:
    Buried without gravestone or monument.


  3. 6.  Henry Salusbury Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 15 Feb 1767 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 23 Mar 1776 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; was buried on 28 Mar 1776 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Physical Description: His mother, in Thraliana described him as …
      Strong made, course and bony: - not handsome at all, but of perfect Proportion; and has a surly look with the honestest and sweetest Temper in the World.
      … and very intelligent for his age, with an attractive personality and was lively, dutiful and loving.
    • Christening: 3 Mar 1767, Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England
    • Education: 1770; By age three Henry had already memorised many facts about religion and was able to recite:
      • the different heathen Gods;
      • the muses;
      • his Catechism;
      • grammar;
      • facts, and various other trivia.
    • Education: abt. 1772; Attended St Thomas's School as a day student, having refused to board.
    • Physical Description: 1775; He was an avid reader and had a forward nature, so much so that his mother had to warn him about age-appropriate conversation topics.
    • Obituary: 25 Mar 1776; Dr. Samuel Johnson, learned of his death, in a letter received whilst having breakfast with James Boswell and Miss Porter. Johnson exclaimed …
      Sir! one of the most dreadful things that has happened in my time! Mr. Thrale has lost his only son. It is a total extinction of the family. He'll no more value his daughters than … why sir, he wishes to propagate his name … I would have gone to the extremity of the earth to have preserved this boy.

    Notes:

    Name:
    Named after his father.

    Died:
    The day before he died he went with a family party to the Tower of London
    Jumping in and out of every Mortar till he was black as the ground.
    .The next day he breakfasted with his father's clerks, bright as a berry. Later during the day, he suffered intense pain. A physician administered a medicine Daffy's Elixir. As he became desperately ill, his mother rushed to his bedside where he lay in agony. He spoke to his nurse and said:
    Don't scream so, I know I must die.
    He died between 3 and 4 p.m.

    Buried:
    His mother slowly recovered from his sudden death, but was disappointed in the behaviour of her friend Herbert Lawrence following her son's death, leading to the ending of their friendship.

    In contrast, although his father lived for a further five years after the death of his son, he never really recovered from the shock of his son's unexpected death.


  4. 7.  Anna Maria Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 1 Apr 1768 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 21 Mar 1770 in Dean Street, Middlesex, England; was buried on 23 Mar 1770 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Christening: 17 Apr 1768, Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England; Rector: James Tattersall officiated.
      Godparents:
    • Physical Description: 11 Jul 1776; Her mother described her as:
      Remarkably small bon'd & delicately framed, but not pretty, as she has no plumpness … her spirit uncommonly high, wonderfully passionate from the very first & backward in her Tongue tho' forward in general Intelligence: She could kiss her hand at 9 months old, & understand all one said to her: could walk to perfection, & even with an Air at a year old, & seems to intend being Queen of us all if she lives which I do not expect she is so very lean.
    • Physical Description: Jul 1780; Her mother described her as:
      Very thin, not very pretty, but wonderfully passionate and intelligent.

    Notes:

    Name:
    Named after Lady Anna Maria Salusbury (née Penrice) 1718-1759.

    Died:
    On the day of her death, her mother's Children's Book described Anna as having died from "a dropsy of the brain". Since she suffered for a while, the sickness may have originated in tuberculosis. She also may have lacked sweat glands, a rare congenital condition.


  5. 8.  Lucy Elizabeth Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 22 Jun 1769 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 22 Nov 1773 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried on 26 Nov 1773 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Physical Description: Described as a sickly child but abundant in softness and kindness. Very pretty and wonderfully active with her feet, but not very talented in English and grammar.

    Notes:

    Name:
    Named after Samuel Johnson's late wife Elizabeth (known as ?Tetty).


  6. 9.  Susannah Arabella ThraleSusannah Arabella Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 23 May 1770 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 5 Nov 1858 in Knockholt, Kent, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: Kensington, Middlesex, England; : Mrs Cumyns's boarding school
    • Education: London, England; She was knowledgeable and had a talent for reading elegantly. She was able to speak French and English by age five.; : Mrs Stevenson's school; Address:
      Queens Square
    • Medical: She had crooked legs and an umbilical rupture which made her irritable. Because of this she was called Little Crab by the other children and Gilly by her father from a Gilhouter, the Cheshire word signifying an owl.
    • Note: Dr Samuel Johnson said of her…
      I was always a Suzy, when nobody else was a Suzy.
    • Physical Description: 30 Mar 1777; Her mother described Susannah in Thraliana as …
      Small, ugly & lean as ever; her Colour is like that of an ill painted Wall grown dirty.
      Dr. Samuel Johnson defended her as being strong and beautiful, against the opinion of her mother.
    • Note: 20 Jan 1779; Her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      My second Daughter Susanna Arabella who will not yet be nine Years old till next May, can at this moment read a French Comedy to divert herself, and these very holy days her Amusement has been to make Sophy & sometimes Hester help her to act the two or three 1 st Scenes of Moliere)'s Bourgeouis Gentilhomme: add to this that She has a real Taste for English Poetry, and when Mr Johnson repeated some of Dryden's Musick Ode the other day, She said She had got the whole poem & Pope's too upon the same Subject by Heart for her own Amusement.—

      Her Knowledge of Arithmetick goes no farther than the four Rules, but She has worked a Map of Europe, and has a Comprehensive Knowledge of Geography that would amaze one.
    • Note: Jul 1779; Aged 9, her mother wrote in Thraliana …
      Susan & Sophy are fine Girls, and promise to be a Credit & Comfort to their Parents, neither do I yet see any Disposition in the Eldest that need give one pain.
    • Note: 14 Jul 1780; Her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      Susan is three parts a Beauty, & quite a Scholar for ten Years old: few passages in History or poetry,—I mean English Poetry—are new to her, & She is a Critick in Geography & French.
    • Note: Jan 1781; When Susannah was eleven - her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      Susan has a surprising turn for Letter writing; her compositions are relly elegant, & She delights—odd enough—in reading Voiture & Sevigné. They both [Susannah and sister Sophia] have obtained the French Accent very completely, considering they have never been out of England. I should like to treat them to with a run to the Continent.
    • Physical Description: 17 Dec 1781; Her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      Susan is already taller than me, & three parts a Beauty.
    • Note: 1790; John Fuller, better known as "Mad Jack" Fuller, proposed marriage but was rebuffed.
    • Note: 1832, Thrale Almshouses (1832-1930), Streatham High Road, Streatham, Surrey, England; The four daughters of Henry & Hester Thrale established almshouses for poor single women of Streatham.
    • Residence: June 1807 - Nov 1858, Ash Cottage, Knockholt, Kent, England

    Notes:

    Susannah Arabella was aged:
    • 11 when her father died; and
    • 14 when her mother remarried.
    Susannah Arabella remained unmarried.

    Buried:
    Has a monument inside Knockholt Church and St Leonards Church, Streatham.

    Susannah married William Frederick Wells in 1796 (Unmarried & living together), and was divorced in 1816. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 10.  Reverend George Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1770; died in 1842; was buried in Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: Winchester, Hampshire, England; : Winchester College
    • Education: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; : Christ Church College
    • Adopted: 1777; Adopted by Henry & Hester Thrale after the death of his mother (Henry's sister) in 1781. His father having already died in 1777.
    • Residence: 1777, Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; After becoming orphaned.
    • Ordained: 1793
    • Employment: 1821-abt.1845, Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England; Rector

    Notes:

    George Salusbury was a close friend of Henry Thrale Jr, having been close in age and grown up in the same household.

    George Salusbury was a kind and generous man. He was also a scholar and a writer. He published several books on religious and historical subjects.


  8. 11.  Sophia ThraleSophia Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 23 Jul 1771 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1824 in Sandgate, Kent, England; was buried in Nov 1824.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Physical Description: 1771; Dr. Samuel Johnson said of Hester's pregnancy with Sophia …
      This naughty baby stays so long that I am afraid it will be a giant, like King Richard.
    • Christening: 11 Aug 1771, Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England
    • Education: 1775, Queens Square, Middlesex, England; Attending Mrs Stevensons school and was memorising hymns, multiplication tables and Psalms, at the aged of four.
    • Physical Description: 20 Dec 1776; She was a favourite of Dr. Samuel Johnson who described her as:
      Dear, sweet, pretty, lovely, delicious Miss Sophy.
    • Note: 20 Jan 1779; Her mother wrote in Thraliana …
      My second Daughter Susanna Arabella who will not yet be nine Years old till next May, can at this moment read a French Comedy to divert herself, and these very holy days her Amusement has been to make Sophy & sometimes Hester help her to act the two or three 1 st Scenes of Moliere)'s Bourgeouis Gentilhomme: add to this that She has a real Taste for English Poetry, and when Mr Johnson repeated some of Dryden's Musick Ode the other day, She said She had got the whole poem & Pope's too upon the same Subject by Heart for her own Amusement.—

      Her Knowledge of Arithmetick goes no farther than the four Rules, but She has worked a Map of Europe, and has a Comprehensive Knowledge of Geography that would amaze one.
    • Note: Jul 1779; Aged 9, her mother wrote in Thraliana …
      Susan & Sophy are fine Girls, and promise to be a Credit & Comfort to their Parents, neither do I yet see any Disposition in the Eldest that need give one pain.
    • Note: 6 Aug 1780; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Sophy has a Turn for making Verses, bad enough to be sure, yet such a Turn shews Genius in a Girl who was nine Years old only a fortnight ago.
    • Note: Jan 1781; When Susannah was eleven - her mother wrote of her in Thraliana …
      Susan has a surprising turn for Letter writing; her compositions are relly elegant, & She delights—odd enough—in reading Voiture & Sevigné. They both [Susannah and sister Sophia] have obtained the French Accent very completely, considering they have never been out of England. I should like to treat them to with a run to the Continent.
    • Note: 17 Dec 1781; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      My Sophy Thrale has begun to study Musik in good earnest; She will learn to play & sing very well I fancy, Piozzi has great hopes of her. Sophy is an Epitome of all the Cotton family—'tis odd that none of my children should resemble my Father.
    • Education: Abt 1782, Kensington, Middlesex, England; Mrs Cumyns' boarding school
    • Physical Description: 11 Mar 1782; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Handsome enough, though not eminant for beauty.
    • Medical: 19 Nov 1783, Bath, Somerset, England; When Sophia was 12, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Heavens! a new Distress! my Child, my Sophia will dye: arrested by the hand of God—apparently so: She will die without a Disease—Fits, sudden, unaccountable, unprovoked; Apoplectic, lethargic like her Father. Woodward and Dobson are called: they say her Disorder should be termed Allonitus. 'tis an instant Cessation of all Nature's Pow'rs at once. I saved her in the first Attack, bya Dram of fine Old Usquebough given at the proper Moment—it reviv'd her, but She only lives I see to expire with fresh Struggles.

      Oh spare my Sophia, my Darling, oh spare her gracious heaven—& take in Exchange the life of her wretched Mother!

      She lives, I have been permitted to save her again; I rubbed her while just expiring, so as to keep the heart in Motion: She knew me instantly, & said you warm me but you are killing yourself—I actually was in a burning Fever from exertion, & fainted soon as I had saved my Child.

      Hester has behaved inimitably too, all our Tenderness was called out on this Occasion: dear Creatures! they see I love them, that I would willingly die for them; that I am actually dying to gratifie their Humour at the Expence of my own Happiness: they can but have my Life-let them take it!”;
    • Medical: 27 Nov 1783; Johnson's letters show that he, and perhaps the physicians, regarded this attack of Sophia's as hysterical. He wrote…
      I had to-day another trifling letter from the physicians. Do not let them fill your mind with terrours which perhaps they have not in their own; neither suffer yourself to sit forming comparisons between Sophy and her dear father; between; whom there can be no other resemblance, than that of sickness to sickness. Hystericks and apoplexies have no relation.
    • Medical: Mar 1784; Samuel Johnson wrote about his concerns of her recurring illness …
      Poor Sophy has been very ill again. I am afraid she makes no progress.
    • Physical Description: 1795
    • Alt. Burial: Aft Dec 1824, Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England; A mourning tablet in her memory is located inside St Leonards Church, Streatham.
    • Note: 1832, Thrale Almshouses (1832-1930), Streatham High Road, Streatham, Surrey, England; The four daughters of Henry & Hester Thrale established almshouses for poor single women of Streatham.

    Notes:

    She was aged:
    • 10 when her father died; and
    • 13 when her mother remarried.


    Sir Joshua Reynolds portrait of Sophy is now at believed to be at Bowood House.

    Buried:
    Her burial date and place are not known to Thrale.com.

    Sophia married Henry Merrick Hoare on 13 Aug 1807 in Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Henry (son of Baronet Sir Richard Hoare) was born in 1770; died in 1856 in Barnes, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  9. 12.  Penelope Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 15 Sep 1772 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 15 Sep 1772 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Notes:

    Birth:
    Born at 1pm

    Died:
    It was said that Mrs Thrale had driven herself to total exhaustion during her previous pregnancy and had not recovered by the time Penelope was born.


  10. 13.  Ralph Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 8 Nov 1773 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 13 Jul 1775 in Brighton, Sussex, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Godparent / sponsor:
    • Medical: His mothers' Children's Book records that she had suspected that Ralph was imbecile since 31 December 1773 and that Dr Pott the surgeon confirmed this in April 1775, suggesting that the cause was congenital. Ralph was said by Hester to have suffered from confluent smallpox.

    Notes:

    Died:
    Ralph died of a brain disorder that caused his head to enlarge. Doctors now think that the cause of death was either congenital hydrocephalus, where there is an increase in the fluid in the ventricles of the brain or hydranencephaly where a bag of clear fluid between the brain and skull distort the shape of the head.

    During the last few months of his life, Ralph's state overshadowed the life of the Thrales taking everybody's mind off the fact that Frances Anna Thrale was born two months earlier.


  11. 14.  Frances Anna Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 4 May 1775 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 9 Dec 1775 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Notes:

    Name:
    Named after paternal cousin Frances Plumbe Rice.

    Died:
    At the time, most of the Thrale family had come down with influenza but all recovered except:
    • Frances; and
    • her wet nurse who also died a few days later.

    Mrs. Thrale took death as being normal as then infant mortality was high and death was always half-expected soo after birth.


  12. 15.  Cecilia Margaretta ThraleCecilia Margaretta Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 8 Feb 1777 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 1 May 1857 in Brighton, Sussex, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Christening: 1777; Godparents:
      • Miss Owen,
      • Mrs Hester D'Avenent 1748-1822,
      • William Seward 1747 -1799.
    • Note: Jul 1779; Aged two, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Cæcilia improves daily and is a lovely girl of the fair delicate kind … their is not a fault to find with either of them person or Mind; and I thank God who gave them me, their health is excellent.
    • Medical: 28 Mar 1783; Her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Poor Cæcilia has got the Hooping Cough.
    • Medical: 14 Apr 1783; Her mother wrote in Thraliana after contracting measles …
      Poor Cæcilia and Harriett; I fear those poor babies will dye, notwithstanding the efforts of Jebb & Pepys to relieve them:—Thank Heav’n they are with Dear Mrs Ray.
      Sir Richard Jebb physician to the King 1742-1830. Pepys physician to the King 1729-87. Mrs Ray Proprietor of Russell House School opposite St. Leonard's Church Streatham.
    • Education: 1784; When her mother left England, Cecilia was left with tutor Miss Nicholson.
    • School: Summer 1786; She moved to Mrs Stevenson’s school in Queens Square, London.
    • Note: 29 Apr 1787; Aged 12, her mother wrote in Thraliana of her second husband Gabriel Piozzi’s relationship with Cecilia …
      The little Cecllia is his Darling, & while She is at School will honour us with her Visits no doubt, but her Tenderness will end there I trust, as her Spirit is the same to that of her Sisters. Well! never mind, my heart is vastly more impenetrable to their unmerited Cruelty than it was when last in England. Let them look to their Affairs, & I shall look to mine: the World is wide enough I’ll warrant it for Miss Thrales and Mrs Piozzi.
    • Physical Description: 30 Dec 1789; Aged 12 her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Cæcilia grows more amiable, She has some fondness, & much flexibility:Amica di ognuno, Amica di nessuno should be Cæcilia’s Motto. We teize her, & say She is like her own favourite Spaniel, who fawns upon everybody, & upon ev’ry body alike—but She says Phillis has her Distinctions.
      'Amica di ognuno, Amica di nessuno' translates as 'Friend of everyone, friend of no-one'.
    • Physical Description: 3 Jan 1791; Aged fourteen, her mother wrote in Thraliana
      Every body tells me that Cæcilia Thrale improves, & so I think She does; tho’ not because they say so: were She less altered for the better, no less would be said about her perfections I suppose. but She has lost much of the savage Manners She brought from School: is tamer, & handsomer, and grows very like what her Sisters were when they lived with me.—

      The Exterior is best tho’ with Cecilia; her Mind recovers more slowly than her Person, from a severe Shock certainly given to Both in the Year 1783 by the Hooping Cough & Measles together, when her younger Sister lost that Life which was preserved to this Girl only by Sir Lucas Pepys’s extreme Skill & Care.

      She will however be a fine Woman, with Accomplishments & Beauty & Virtue enough to accompany forty or fifty Thousand Pounds—although her Memory is far from strong, and her Spirit of Application to any Study much too weak ever to attain at Eminence I think.

      Her Temper when unthwarted is sweet, but She arms against opposition even instinctively; and will do nothing because She is commanded, but the contrary, while the same surly Independent Soul inhabits her Bosom with equal Rapacity to obtain, and Rage to appropriate, as in the hearts of any of her Family.

      Cecilia seems however to love Mr Piozzi—in her way of loving—but no one accuses her of partiality towards me I believe, whose Company She studiously avoids; & I therefore say nothing, but provide Refuges for her to recur to, that are no less improving Companions than myself—while She has Miss Weston, Miss Williams, Miss Lees, or Dear Siddons only for Confidents—She can hear of nothing but Literature, so I care not.

      The Greatheeds too, so much her favourites! with whom can She be better? We keep no Company but that by which something must be obtained to a Young Mind, of Knowledge or of Virtue.—
    • Note: 27 Jan 1791; Hester Lynch Thrale wrote in Thraliana
      Here’s my Birthday returned; the first I have spent at Streatham for many Years, and quite the happiest I ever did spend there: Our daughter who lives in the house with us—Cecilia—much improved, & growing handsome as well as tall & rich; good as her Neighbours too, for ought I see; though without much Love of Study, or Regard for me, all goes well between us; and her Papa as She calls him, has a very solid kindness & true Goodwill towards her. I find he is of Opinion that Cator is no honest Guardian to those Girls, but I suppose they would rather be robbed by him, than saved by us.
    • Godparent / sponsor: Aug 1794; Hester Lynch Thrale née Salusbury became Godmother to Cecilia Siddons, daughter of Sarah Siddons. Cecilia Siddons was named after Cecilia Margaretta Thrale.
    • Note: 1 Sep 1794; Aged 17, mother wrote in Thraliana
      Cecilia does not indeed trouble herself to disguise her Sentiments, She has, and She shews She has, an ineffable Contempt for us both; but why do I say of us? She despises every body, I know, except her own Sisters & her Father’s Family (I suppose‚ twas they taught her to hate us so, She was only indifferent to us till She knew them—but’twas an easy Lesson to any of the Family), Cecilia is however a very charitable Girl, and loves the poor: which will produce her many Blessings I humbly hope, and certainly will cover a Multitude of Faults—for the rest, one can only say with Andromache
      Youth and Prosperity have made her vain.
    • Note: 1832, Thrale Almshouses (1832-1930), Streatham High Road, Streatham, Surrey, England; The four daughters of Henry & Hester Thrale established almshouses for poor single women of Streatham.
    • Census: 6 Jun 1841, Sillwood Place, Brighton, Brighthelmstone, Sussex, England; : 60
    • Probate: Autumn 1857; Her collection of curiosities and relics of her father's and Dr. Samuel Johnsonwas sold at Silwood Lodge, Brighton.

    Notes:

    Cecilia Margaretta was 4 years old. when her father died and 7 years old. seven when her mother remarried.

    Cecilia married John Meredith Mostyn on 8 Jun 1795 in Gretna Green, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. John (son of John Mostyn and Anna Maria Meredydd) was born in 1775 in Segrwyd, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 19 May 1807 in Bath, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Henry Meredith Mostyn  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Nov or Dec 1799; died in 1840.
    2. 22. Thomas Arthur Bertie Mostyn  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Jul 1801 in Clynnog, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died on 3 Oct 1876; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    3. 23. (miscarried) Mostyn  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 24. John Salusbury Mostyn  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1827; died in 1827.

  13. 16.  Henrietta Sophia Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 21 Jun 1778 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; died on 25 Apr 1783 in Streatham Park, Streatham, Surrey, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Godparent / sponsor: Mrs Elizabeth Montagu; Address:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Montagu
    • Physical Description: Jul 1779; When Henrietta was one year old - Hester wrote in Thraliana
      Harriett is brown, rosy, fat and stout--their is not a fault to find with either of them person or Mind; and I thank God who gave them me, their health is excellent;.
    • Physical Description: 17 Dec 1781; Hester wrote in Thraliana
      She is a pretty creature! Harriet much resembles the young Rices I think--She is a pretty creature!
    • Medical: 14 Apr 1783; Her mother wrote in Thralianaafter contracting measles …
      Poor Cæcilia and Harriett; I fear those poor babies will dye, notwithstanding the efforts of Jebb & Pepys to relieve them:—Thank Heav’n they are with Dear Mrs Ray.
      Jebb & Pepys were doctors & Mrs. Ray was her school teacher.

    Notes:

    Died:
    She was ill before 22 March 1783, as that day Dr. Samuel Johnson wrote …
    I hope, Harriet is well;.


    On 28 March 1783 - four weeks before Henrietta died - Hester wrote in Thraliana
    My youngest child Henrietta is ill;.


    On 14 April 1783, Hester again wrote in Thraliana, after Henrietta contracted measles …
    Poor Cæcilia and Harriett; I fear those poor babies will dye, notwithstanding the efforts of Jebb & Pepys to relieve them:—Thank Heav'n they are with Dear Mrs Ray {Proprietor of Russell House School opposite St. Leonard's Church Streatham}.
    On 31 March 1783, Dr. Samuel Johnson wrote …
    I hope to hear again that my dear little girl is out of danger;.


    On 14 April 1783, Hester again wrote in Thraliana, after Henrietta contracted measles …
    Poor Cæcilia and Harriett; I fear those poor babies will dye, notwithstanding the efforts of Jebb & Pepys to relieve them:—Thank Heav'n they are with Dear Mrs Ray.
    Mrs Ray was proprietor of Russell House School opposite St. Leonard's Church Streatham.



    On 31 March 1783, Dr. Samuel Johnson wrote …
    I hope to hear again that my dear little girl is out of danger;.


    Hester wrote in Thraliana
    Henrietta’s Death however was inevitable; She came home with a slight glandular Swelling in her Neck which was succeeded by the Measles & Hooping Cough: these united fell very heavy on an Infant so tender, & falling on her Lungs particularly, produced an Abscess which was the immediate Cause of her Death.;.
    Surprisingly - by today's standards - during the period of her illness and death Hester was in Bath whilst Henrietta and Cecilia were in Streatham.


  14. 17.  (miscarried) Thrale Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 10 Aug 1779 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 10 Aug 1779 in Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England.

    Notes:

    Died:
    Aged 38, Hester Thrale wrote in the Family Book …
    I think I am again pregnant.

    Hester had a difficult pregnancy, which she prayed was a son. During most of the pregnancy, she was confined to the house. On 10 August 1779, she was a few days away from being full-term, but problems with the clerks had arisen at the brewery.

    In Thraliana, she wrote …

    Mr Thrale wished me to go, nay insisted on it, but seemed somewhat concerned too, as he was well apprized of the Risque I should run. I went however, & after doing the Business I went to do, beg’d him to make haste home, as I was apprehensive bad Consequences might very quickly arise from the Joulting &c. – he would not be hurried … no Pain, No Entreaties of mine could make him set out one Moment before the appointed hour – so I lay along in the Coach all the way from London to Streatham in a State not to be described, nor endured; – but by me: –& being carried to my Chamber the Instant I got home, miscarried in the utmost Agony before they could get me into Bed, after fainting five Times.
    The stillborn child was a full-term, perfectly formed, boy. Henry’s inaction seemed to have contributed to the loss of his last chance to have a male heir. John Perkins who was present at the scene in the brewery, said that Henry seemed to be…
    Planet-struck.


  15. 18.  Sir John Salusbury Piozzi SalusburySir John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 9 Sep 1793; died on 18 Dec 1858 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: 1798, Streatham, Surrey, England; Mr Davies' "University"
    • Adopted: Jan 1798
    • Physical Description: 11 Mar 1799; Hester Thrale wrote in Thraliana ...
      Mr Piozzi's baby,—The little Italian Boy is come over; & we have place him with Mr Davies who keeps a University as he calls it for Young Students under 12 years old—This infant was just past 3 —when he touch'd English Ground I Understand;—Seems healthful, Arch & Intelligent: but short of his Age, & rather sturdy than elegant in his Form. He too is named John Salusbury in good Time!
    • Education: 1804, Eton College, Berkshire, England
    • Education: 1811, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; Christ Church, Oxford University
    • Note: 1813; A letter from step-sisters Hester Maria Thrale to Cecilia Margarita Thrale ...
      The adopted youth is an odd mixture of folly and shrewdness, and treats his Aunt as he always calls her with a degree of saucy familiarity I was astonished to hear of, and which may pass for childishness, but I should think would soon be quite unsuppotable to her.
    • Note: 7 Nov 1814; Hester began negotiations for the purchase of a baronetcy from Henry Addington, 1st Viscount Sidmouth, a British politician who served as Prime Minister from 1801 to 1804. He was a friend and confidant of Hesterfrom the 1770s through a shared interest in literature. he was a frequent visitor to Streatham Park. She gave him £6,000 on 16 June 1817. However, he did not complete the purchase as he had spent the money elsewhere. On 29 November 1813, Hester legally applied for him to bear the surname Salusbury. On 7 November 1814, Hester Thrale purchased a baronetcy for her adopted son, Sir John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury. This was significant as baronetcies were hereditary titles bestowed by the British monarch. It was a rare occurrence for a woman to purchase a baronetcy, and even more so for her to do so for an adopted son. She eventually succeeded in purchasing a baronetcy through the help of a friend, the politician and philanthropist Sir Joseph Mawbey who had contacts in the government and was able to arrange for her to meet with the Prince Regent, who was the acting monarch at the time. He was impressed with Thrale and her story, and he agreed to grant her son a baronetcy. Thrale paid £10,000 for the title, which is equivalent to around £10 million in 2022. He was also made a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Guelphic Order, a British order of chivalry. The purchase and sale of hereditary titles, including baronetcies, was outlawed in the United Kingdom in 1925 by the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925.
    • Property: 7 Nov 1814; On John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury's wedding day, his stepmother Hester retired to Bath and he inherited Bachymbyd Hall and Estate. He was not a good estate manager as he was more interested in drinking, gambling and horse racing. As a result, the estates fell into disrepair, which led to the sale of some land.
    • Property: 7 Nov 1814, Brynbella, Tremeirchion, Flintshire, Wales; On John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury's wedding day, his stepmother Hester retired to Bath and he inherited Brynbella. He was not a good estate manager as he was more interested in drinking, gambling and horse racing. As a result, the estates fell into disrepair, which led to the sale of some land.
    • Property: 7 Nov 1814, Bodvel, Caernarvonshire, Wales; On John Salusbury Piozzi Salusbury's wedding day, his stepmother Hester retired to Bath and he inherited the Bodvel estate. He was not a good estate manager as he was more interested in drinking, gambling and horse racing. As a result, the estates fell into disrepair, which led to the sale of some land.
    • Military Service: 1815; Commissioned as a cornet in the 16th Light Dragoons. He served with the regiment during the Battle of Waterloo, where he was wounded in the leg.
    • Election: 1816; Appointed High Sheriff of Flintshire & served in this role for one year. This is a ceremonial office appointed by the monarch and is responsible for maintaining law and order in their county & undertaking ceremonial duties, such as attending royal visits and opening new courts.
    • Employment: Aft 1815; After the war, Salusbury returned to his civil service career, including:
      • Commissioner of Stamps and Taxes;
      • Secretary to the Board of Inland Revenue.
      • Occupation: 1816, Flint, Flintshire, Wales; High Sheriff
      • Note: 1817

      Notes:

      Physical Description:
      Hester's note that he was aged 3 on arrival to England, is incorrect, he was five-years old on arrival.

      Note:
      The "Aunt" was his step-mother Hester Lynch Thrale nee Salusbury.

      John married Harriet Maria Pemberton on 7 Nov 1814 in St. Mary-in-the-Marsh, Wrexham, Flintshire, Wales. Harriet and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

      Children:
      1. 25. John Arthur Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1821; died in 1877.
      2. 26. Reverend George Augustus Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 16 Jun 1822 in Flintshire, Wales; died on 24 Dec 1893 in Westbury, Gloucestershire, England.
      3. 27. Hester Maria Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1823; died in 1874.
      4. 28. Harriet Frances Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1827; died in 1879.
      5. 29. Henry Pemberton Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1830; died in 1898.

  16. 19.  (miscarried daughter) Piozzi Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 7 Jan 1788; and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Note: 7 Jan 1788; Aged 46, Hester miscarried a daughter - her only child with her second husband, Gabriel Piozzi.

      On 7 January 1788, she wrote …
      Now I have miscarried of a Daughter at Mrs Lewis’s House at Reading in my Road hither—She is Witenss, but not thinking even that sufficient, would have every possible examination made in order to satisfy me that bringing children is still possible.
      She was deeply affected by the loss of her child. She wrote in her diary that she felt…
      Like a blasted oak and was afraid to go to bed, for fear of dying in the night.
      The miscarriage also put a strain on her marriage. He was less upset by the loss than she was, and he was eager to move on and have more children.
    • Note: 4 Apr 1788; She wrote in a letter Dr. Samuel Johnson, that she had …
      Just lost a daughter.

    Notes:

    Hester Piozzi wrote of a miscarried Daughter "Now I have miscarried of a Daughter at Mrs Lewis’s House at Reading in my Road hither. She is Witenss, "but not thinking even that sufficient, would have every possible examination made in order to satisfy me that bringing children is still possible.



Generation: 4

  1. 20.  Honourable Georgina Augusta Henrietta Keith Descendancy chart to this point (4.Hester3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 12 Dec 1809; died on 21 Sep 1892; was buried in Overton Kirkyard, Tulliallan, Fife, Scotland.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Godparent / sponsor: Duke of Clarence, Later King William IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV_of_the_United_Kingdom)
    • Godparent / sponsor: Prince of Wales, later King George IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV_of_the_United_Kingdom)
    • Census: 30 Mar 1851, Bolsover Castle, Bolsover, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England; Widdow Of The Late Augustus Villiers. Visitor to the household with mother.; : 38

    Notes:

    Georgina was the last direct descendant of Henry Thrale as she died childless.

    Family/Spouse: Lord William Godolphin Osborne. William was born in 1804; died on 28 Dec 1888. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Georgina married Honorable Augustus John Child Villiers in 1831 in St George, Hanover Square, Middlesex, England. Augustus died on 24 May 1847 in St George, Hanover Square, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 21.  Henry Meredith Mostyn Descendancy chart to this point (15.Cecilia3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in Nov or Dec 1799; died in 1840.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Had a distinguished career in the Royal Navy.

    Family/Spouse: Susan Townshend. Susan and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 22.  Thomas Arthur Bertie Mostyn Descendancy chart to this point (15.Cecilia3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 11 Jul 1801 in Clynnog, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died on 3 Oct 1876; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 6 Jun 1841, Sillwood Place, Brighton, Brighthelmstone, Sussex, England; : 35

    Notes:

    Bertie was a man of science interested in the latest inventions; and a writer. He wrote a play called "The Regent" in which he persuaded Mrs Siddons to take the leading part, but she miscarried on stage and the play was withdrawn. Bertie was 17th in a direct descent from King Edward 1.

    Name:
    Named after Bertie Greatheed, second son of Samuel Greatheed, Whig Member of Parliament for Coventry and Lady Mary Greatheed.


  4. 23.  (miscarried) Mostyn Descendancy chart to this point (15.Cecilia3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1)

  5. 24.  John Salusbury Mostyn Descendancy chart to this point (15.Cecilia3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1827; died in 1827.

  6. 25.  John Arthur Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1821; died in 1877.

  7. 26.  Reverend George Augustus Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born on 16 Jun 1822 in Flintshire, Wales; died on 24 Dec 1893 in Westbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Education: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; : Christ Church College
    • Ordained: 1846; Ordained as a priest in the Church of England
    • Employment: 1852-1893, Westbury, Gloucestershire, England; Vicar

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Major Edward Pemberton Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 27.  Hester Maria Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1823; died in 1874.

  9. 28.  Harriet Frances Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1827; died in 1879.

  10. 29.  Henry Pemberton Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1) was born in 1830; died in 1898.


Generation: 5

  1. 30.  Major Edward Pemberton Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (26.George4, 18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. R.V. Salusbury  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 6

  1. 31.  R.V. Salusbury Descendancy chart to this point (30.Edward5, 26.George4, 18.John3, 3.Hester2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Coleman. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]