Thrale/Thrall history
Herbert Thrale
1895 - 1960 (65 years)1. Herbert Thrale was born on 17 Mar 1895 in Church Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died on 18 Mar 1960 in 10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England; was buried in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. Other Events and Attributes:
- Note: Luton FC supporter.
- Name: Herbert Donald Thrale
- Residence: Kilburn, Middlesex, England; Address:
28 Chichelle Road - Census: 1901; : 6 years
- Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Errand boy, single; : 16
- Physical Description: Sep 1914; Army medical examination on enlistment aged 19 years, 6 months. Height 5 feet 7 inches. 34" chest. Good vision and good physical development. However, daughter Olga Thrale later recalled that her father was Mum said he was 6ft 3 inches tall.
- Military Service: Sep 1914 - 05 May 1919; Enlisted with 17th County of London Battalion as Private 3097 in St Albans. Transferred to Royal Engineers. WR11368 & 551343. Transferred to Labour Corps 282425. Discharged at Purfleet Essex. Served in France. According to his son Brian Thrale, during WWI Herbert stabbed a German in the hand and ran away.
- Note: Abt 1925; Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. However, he could also sometimes be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died.
- Note: Jun 1928
- Occupation: 28 Sep 1920-28 Aug 1928; Journeyman house painter
- Residence: 28 Aug 1928, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
- Residence: 1932 - 1935, 89 Netherwood Street, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
- Note: Abt 1936
- Residence: 1949, 10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England
- Occupation: 4 Sep 1959; Turner, Clockmaker
- Residence: Bef 1960, 8a Leamington Road, West Hampstead, Middlesex, England
- Occupation: 18 Mar 1960; General labourer clock factory (retired)
Notes:
Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. Although, he could also sometime be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died.
Name:
Called Herbert Donald Thrale, but just named Herbert Thrale on his birth certificate. Widely known as 'Donald' or 'Don'. Was supposed to be named Hubert, but apparently, his father accidentally registered Herbert instead and the name stuck.
Died:
Certified after post-mortem without inquest. Herbert died from a heart attack on the toilet on the morning of his last day at work before he retired.Herbert married Rose Spittle on 28 Sep 1920 in Registry Office, Willesden, Middlesex, England. Rose (daughter of Henry Charles Spittle and Elizabeth Chamberlain) was born on 15 Jan 1894 in 58 Church Street, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England; died on 9 Mar 1973 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England; was buried on 15 Mar 1973 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Norman Jack Thrale was born on 7 Jan 1923 in Acton, Middlesex, England; died on 9 Dec 1923 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England.
- 3. Olga Eileen Isobel Thrale was born on 22 Oct 1924 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England; died on 23 May 2012 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.
- 4. Kenneth David Thrale was born on 28 Aug 1928 in West Hampstead, Middlesex, England; died on 31 Jul 1987 in Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; was cremated on 7 Aug 1987 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England.
- 5. Gatenby Brian Thrale
- 6. Frances Margaret Thrale
Generation: 2
2. Norman Jack Thrale (1.Herbert1) was born on 7 Jan 1923 in Acton, Middlesex, England; died on 9 Dec 1923 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England. 3. Olga Eileen Isobel Thrale (1.Herbert1) was born on 22 Oct 1924 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England; died on 23 May 2012 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England. Other Events and Attributes:
- Hobbies: Loved ballet
- Note: Jun 1928
- Note: Abt 1936
- Property: 4 Aug 1959, Chase Cross, Romford, Essex, England; Address:
221 Highfield Road - Property: 23 May 2012, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; Address:
10 Meadowlake Close
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Notes:
Died:
Died at 17.30 in local nursing home.Olga married Alfred Stanley Tobutt in Jan - Mar 1945 in Hendon, Middlesex, England. Alfred was born on 29 Sep 1920 in Fulham, Middlesex, England; died on 7 Dec 2014. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
4. Kenneth David Thrale (1.Herbert1) was born on 28 Aug 1928 in West Hampstead, Middlesex, England; died on 31 Jul 1987 in Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; was cremated on 7 Aug 1987 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. Other Events and Attributes:
- Physical Description: 5'11'' slim blue eyes, black hair
- Note: Abt 1936
- Education: Between 31 Aug 1936 and 30 Oct 1942; Childs Hill School. Leaving comments of headmaster were "Kenneth Thrale is a very intelligent boy and an enthusiastic worker. He is reliable and trustworthy."
- Hobbies: 1938; Boy Scout membership
- Military Service: 1944; Air Cadets
- Occupation: c. 1944-1945; General Post Office, telecommunications engineer. Left because he couldn't get up in the mornings. His foreman unsuccessfully went to visit Ken's parents to dissuade him from leaving the GPO.
- Residence: Between Apr 1959 and Sep 1959, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England; 10 Westcroft Way
- Residence: Between Oct 1959 and 5 Mar 1978, Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; Address:
29a Doreen Avenue - Property: 6 Mar 1978, Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; Address:
96 Birchen Grove - Occupation: 1950-1987; House painter and decorator
- Probate: 29 Oct 1987
Notes:
As a young child was close to his mother, always wanting to be around her.
Christened:
Sponsor: Frances Gatenby
Buried:
Service conducted in East Chapel. Ashes buried in Horder Garden, plot H15.Kenneth married Shirley Helen Block on 04 Sep 1959 in Willesden, Middlesex, England. Shirley (daughter of Henry Block and Leah Abrahams) was born on 11 Jan 1937 in Mile End, Stepney, Middlesex, England; died on 27 Sep 2000 in Kensington, Middlesex, England; was cremated on 04 Oct 2000 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
5. Gatenby Brian Thrale (1.Herbert1) 6. Frances Margaret Thrale (1.Herbert1) Frances married Ronald Nye on 10 Sep 1960 in West Hampstead, Middlesex, England. Ronald died on 6 Feb 2022. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 12. Philip Nye
- 13. Roma Nye
- 14. Elinor Margaret Nye
Generation: 3
7. Nicole Tobutt (3.Olga2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Alan Bond. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 15. Luke Bond
- 16. Jessica Bond
8. Jonathan Tobutt (3.Olga2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Barry. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
9. Clive Julian Tobutt, PhD (3.Olga2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 17. Rosie Tobutt
10. David Henry Thrale (4.Kenneth2, 1.Herbert1) David married Michelle Antoinette McLaggan on 3 Aug 1991 in Kingsbury, Middlesex, England. Michelle (daughter of Joseph Gladstone McLaggan and Monica Elease Daley) was born on 4 May 1966 in Kingsbury, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
11. Stacey Donald Thrale (4.Kenneth2, 1.Herbert1) Stacey married Jane McPhillips [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Stacey married Hayley Johnson [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Stacey married Charlotte Louise Prescott [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
12. Philip Nye (6.Frances2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 21. Joseph Nye
- 22. Sophie Nye
13. Roma Nye (6.Frances2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Olden. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 23. Adam Olden
- 24. Emily Olden
14. Elinor Margaret Nye (6.Frances2, 1.Herbert1) Family/Spouse: Raymond Hill. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 25. Alastair Hill
- 26. Henry Hill
- 27. Raymonda Hill