Richard Thrale

Other Events and Attributes:

• Property: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Childwickbury
• Property: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Pound Farm

Richard married Mary Manfield on 11 Sep 1717 in Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. Mary was born in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; was christened in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; died on 24 Sep 1749 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; was buried after 24 Sep 1749 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Childwickbury, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

The National Burial Index for England and Wales records an Anne Norman, born 1732, buried 9 March 1806 in St Botolph, Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Anne married William Norman on 24 Feb 1753 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. William was born in Tokenhouse Yard, Middlesex, England; died in 1782; was buried in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married Edmund Hawkins on 2 Mar 1769 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. Edmund was born in Kings Walden, Hertfordshire, England; died about 1791. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Property: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Fairfolds Farm

Family/Spouse: Elizabeth. and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Fairfolds and Pound Farm
• Occupation: Farmer
• Will: 14 Oct 1769; WILL OF JONATHAN PARSONS DIED 1768 "In the name of God, Amen. I Jonathan Parsons of the parish of Sandridge, in the county of Hertford, victualer, being of sound mind and disposing mind, memory and understanding, praised be God for the same Do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following (that is to say) Whereas I have only surrendered all and singular my Copyhold Messuage and Tenements eresitaments and premisses with their appurtenances situate within and holden of the manor of Sandridge and within the County of Hertford to the use of my last Will and Testament. Now, I do hereby give and desire unto my beloved wife Mary Parsons all and singular my said Copyhold Messuages or Tenements appurtenances and premisses with their and every of their rights and appurtenances situate and holden of the said manor and also all my other Real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever To hold to her the said Mary Parsons for and during the term of her natural life and from and after her decease I give and devise all that Messuage or Tenements situate and being in Sandridge, aforesaid commonly called or known by the name or sign of the Queen's head and now in my own occupation together with all, and singular the `illegible` and appurtenances thereunto belonging unto my son Jonathan Parsons, his heirs and assigns for ever. Also I give and desire after the death of my said dear wife all those three Messuages or Tenements situate and being in Sandridge, afore-said and now in the occupation of Richard Pearce, John Seaver and John Smith with their and every of their rights members and appurtenances unto my daughter Sally Parsons to have and to hold my said daughter Sally Parsons her heirs and assigns for ever. I also give and desire after the decease of my said wife all those two Messuages or Tenements situate and being in Sandridge aforesaid and now in the occupation of Richard Smith and John Halsey with their and every of their rights members and appurtenances unto my daughter Mary Parsons to have and to hold to my said daughter Mary Parsons. I give and bequeath to my daughter Ann the now wife of Thomas Thrale of Sandridge aforesaid, yeoman, the sum of fifty pounds to be paid her within three months next after the decease of my said wife Mary Parsons whom I do hereby nominate Constitute and appoint sole Executrix of this my last will hereby revoking and making void all former or other will or wills by me at anytime heretofore make I to publish and declare this to be my last Will and Testament. In Witness whereof I have hereunto setting hand and seal this twenty-first day of January in the year of our Lord 1766. Jonathan Parsons"; Address:

Thomas married Ann Parsons on 2 Jan 1761 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. Ann (daughter of Jonathan Parsons and Mary) was born about 1735 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Property: Fairfolds farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Thomas married Mary Wilson on 26 Jul 1784 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. Mary and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Sacred to the memory of Mrs. Mary Robards wife of Mr. John Robards late of this Parish who departed this life June 12, 1832. Aged 69 years

In memory of Elizabeth Daughter of John & Mary Robards who Died October the 7th 1799 aged 12 years

Mary married John Robards on 18 Nov 1784 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. John (son of Richard Robards and Hannah Lake) was born on 14 Dec 1759 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1797 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 5 Dec 1797 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ann(e) married John Munt on 13 Jun 1799 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England. John was born in 1771; died on 21 Apr 1851. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Baptism: 16 Nov 1766, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

This shows that a Ralph Thale was buried at Flamstead, St Leonard on 7 April 1801. Noting that Abigail Burchmore was from Flamstead this might be the same Ralph?

See also: http://www.thrale.com/right_name_wrong_body

Ralph Thrale owned a goblet engraved with the initials "RT". See: http://www.thrale.com/ralph_thrales_goblet

Ralph married Abigail Burchmore on 29 Sep 1796 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Abigail (daughter of Thomas Burchmore and Sarah Andrews) was born about 1770 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 3 Aug 1796 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1863. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Susannah married Robert Smith on 1 Mar 1809 in North Mimms, Hertfordshire, England. Robert was born in 1786 in North Mimms, Hertfordshire, England; died on 11 Apr 1865 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Fairfolds farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

The family tree printed on page 198 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale shows an Elizabeth Thrale (as the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) but shows her as being married to Charles Parsons in 1813.

This is correctly shown on this family tree on Thrale.com as the following individual: http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I281&tree=tree01

HOWEVER, the family tree printed on page 182 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale says that Elizabeth Thrale 1760 - 1816 (which it says is the Elizabeth Thrale that was the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) was married to Thomas Burchmore 1760-1816.

This family tree on Thrale.com, records Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Burchmore as a different individual, with unidentified parents and no children. http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I492&tree=tree01

24 October 2016 - Further research is required

Elizabeth married Charles Parsons on 27 Dec 1813 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England. Charles (son of Jonathan Parsons and Ann Sams) was born in 1791 in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 17 Apr 1791 in Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Lemsford Mills, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England; At the time of his death owned the dwelling house and the water driven mill known as Lemsford Mills in the parish of Hatfield in Hertfordshire also two farms in the neighborhood one of them called Simonshyde.
• Baptism: 9 Oct 1785, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Buried:
Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth, the beloved wife of Mr. Thomas Robards of Lemsford Mills in the Parish of Hatfield who departed this life December 6th 1851 Aged 51 years also of Thomas Robards eldest son of the above Thomas & Elizabeth Robards who departed this life March 7th 1853 aged 13 years also of the above named Mr. Thomas Robards who departed this life September 25 1854 aged 70 years also of Elizabeth Robards who departed this lif e February 1st 1866 aged 29 years also of Jane Robards daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Robards who died Jan 18 1892 aged 53 years.

Thomas married Elizabeth Nightingale on 12 Jan 1826 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of John Nightingale and Edith) was born about 1800 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England; died on 6 Dec 1851 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 27 Sep 1787, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Buried:
Sacred to the memory of Mrs. Mary Robards wife of Mr. John Robards late of this Parish who departed this life June 12, 1832. Aged 69 years

In memory of Elizabeth Daughter of John & Mary Robards who Died October the 7th 1799 aged 12 years

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• Baptism: 2 Mar 1798, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

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• Occupation: Miller

Thomas married Sarah Thorpe in 1823 in Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Sarah was born in 1804; died in 1869. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: ? Arnold. ? and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Census: 1851; Born Wheathampstead; : 35 years
• Census: 1871, Luton, Bedfordshire, England; Wife. Born Wheathampstead; : 64 years; Address:
  The Folly
  Lower Luton Road

Sarah married John Wilshire on 5 Sep 1833 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. John (son of William Wilsher and Susan George) was born before 27 Dec 1804 in Waterend House, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 26 May 1805 in Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; died on 19 Dec 1876 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 27 Dec 1876 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 15 May 1809, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Mary married John Sibley on 22 Aug 1839 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. John was born about 1809; died on 23 Apr 1877 in Gustard Wood, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Pound Farm, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England
• Baptism: 1818

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• Baptism: 1820

Elizabeth married Henry Alexander Taylor in 1865. Henry and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 1821

Susan married John Purrot in 1853. John and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 11 Jun 1815, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 24 Nov 1818, Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 20 Jun 1821, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

William married Eliza before 1853. Eliza and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 11 May 1823, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England
• Residence: 1838, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Moved to St Albans aged 15 years
• Residence: 1884, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Lived here with daughter Mrs Russell until her death.; Address:
  7 College Street
• Obituary: 1913

Family/Spouse: John Fowell. John died about 1853. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 5 Jun 1825, Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 13 Mar 1828, Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

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• Property: Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Fairfolds Farm
• Baptism: 18 Mar 1835, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 4 Jun 1836, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 16 May 1838, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 7 May 1840, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England

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• Baptism: 20 Jul 1842, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England
• Occupation: 1881; Ship broker

Notes:

When Thomas Robards died his son, my father was only about 12 years old and all of the members of the family were women so were unable to carry out the two farms and the Mill. Consequently all these were sold and the women (Elizabeth Robards and Jane Robards daughters of Thomas Robards also their aunt sister of their mother her name being Miss Nightingall and it is said she lived before her time being a Greek and Latin scholar). All these as I meant to say and my father moved to Holloway somewhere at the foot of Highgate Hill. John Robards at about 16 years old was articled to Mr. John Russell, Ship broker in Great St. Helens Bishopsgate in the City of London and he lived with the Russells in Upper Lewisham Road. Lewisham a suburb of London. Mr. Russell ran the first line of steamers to the Black Sea for the Russian Steam Navigation Co. and John my father used often to travel to Odessa in the Black Sea and also to Ireland. John Robards married Kate Baxter my mother on 4th June 1875. John and Kate had known each other as children as Kate lived with her parents next door but one in Holloway. They became engaged in 1872 and soon after Kate and her parents moved to Stone, Kent a village overlooking the Thames near Gravesend. They were married at Stone by Canon Murray and had seven children. After they married they lived first at Greenhythe a village near Stone then at Bexley then three different houses at Dartford then at Grove Park now part of South-east London. All these places are in Kent with easy access to the City and also to the shipping on the River Thames -- places like Gravesend and Tilbury. Very soon after my birth in 1894 at Grove Park they moved to a house called Beech Hyde near St. Albans, Hertfordshire. I think my father wanted to get back to the scenes of his boyhood. He had beer sent to boarding school at the age of five to St. Albans, to the St. Albans Grammar School. The Lady Chapel Of St. Albans Abbey was used as a schoolroom and what is now the Bishop's Palace was the Headmasters House where he boarded. Well to come back to later years in 1894 and the house called Beech Hyde they lived there for about two years and then my father retired from business. He had some sort of a breakdown in health about then and the furniture was stored and the family moved from one seaside place to another for about six years - Bognor, Bexhill, Eastbourne - in rented apartments all in Sussex. Settled at the "Croft" Alfriston, Sussex in 1901. Both died at Alfriston. My father in 1927 and my mother in 1933 and they are buried in the Churchyard there.

Alfriston is a village of about 700 people lying amid the South Downs about 9 miles from Eastbourne and Beachy Head and about 41 miles from Seaford a small town on the Sea Coast near the port of Newhaven. A port much used by the travellers to France. Alfriston is a very old village and I was brought up there and lived there until I went to London to earn my living. I used to walk 2 ½ miles to the nearest Railway Station every day in order to go to Eastbourne to school. Oh of course I cycled sometimes.

Your grandfather Harold Robards also went to London and worked in the Anglo-Foreign Banking Co. in Bishopsgate. I also went to the Anglo Foreign Bank for about two years until I joined the merchant bank of M. Samuels Co. Ltd. So all of us - my father in Great St. Helens Bishopsgate. Your grandfather Harold Robards in Bishopsgate and myself also in Bishopsgate for 45 years all worked within a few hundred yards of each other.

John married Kate Baxter on 4 Jun 1875 in Stone, Kent, England. Kate (daughter of Morris Baxter and Eliza Garland) was born on 21 May 1850 in Holloway, Middlesex, England; died on 7 Aug 1933 in Alfriston, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 77 years
• Residence: 1901, Ashford, England

Notes:

Died:
The GRO lists a Sarah Thrale as dying in the June 1907 qtr in Staines aged 85. Vol 3a page 2.

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• Occupation: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Baker & beer seller; Address:
  The Boot
  High Street
• Residence: Gustard Wood, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Alt. Birth: 1826, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Saint Mary
• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Thomas Thrale, Married, 25, Baker & Beer Seller b Luton, Beds Eliza Thrale, wife, 24 born Wheathampstead Sarah Thrale dau, 2 born Wheathampstead Thomas R. Thrale, son 1m born Wheathampstead James Peacock, relative, unmarried 26 Ag Lab born Wheathampstead Henry O'Dell, lodger unmarried 22, Fishmonger, born Wheathampstead; Address:
  The Boot, High Street
• Occupation: 29 Mar 1857; Baker (Journeyman)
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas THRALE Rel: Head Occ: Master Baker M 55 M Wheathampstead Eliza THRALE Rel: Wife M 53 F Wheathampstead Harriett THRALE Rel: Daur U 21 F Wheathampstead Thomas THRALE Rel: G Son Occ: Scholar 6 M Wheathampstead Amelia OCKMORE Rel: Visitor 26 F London, London, Middlesex, England Daniel WELSH Rel: Boarder Occ: Journeyman Baker 29 M Kimpton Wm. PINDER Rel: Boarder Occ: Journeyman Baker 16 M Wheathampstead; : 55 yrs; Address:
  High Street
• Occupation: 28 Apr 1848-14 Nov 1881; Baker

Thomas married Elizabeth Peacock on 28 Apr 1848 in Saint Luke, Middlesex, England. Elizabeth (daughter of William Peacock) was born on 14 Jun 1827 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died on 3 Jul 1899 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Property: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  The Maltings
• Residence: 1841, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Grandchildren (sons of Abigail's son Thomas Thrale) Norman Thrale (aged 10) and William Thrale (aged 12) were living with "grumpy grandmother" Abigail Thrale née Burchmore.
• Census: 1851, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; William Thrale, Unmarried, 23, Baker Master, b Luton, Beds; Address:
  High Street
• Census: 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Lists a widower William Thrale aged 52 that is most likely to be this William Thrale. William THRALE Rel: Head Occ: Retired Farmer ((Gentleman)) W 52 M Luton Sarah WILSHER Rel: Serv Occ: Housekeeper U 42 F Wheathampstead; : 52 years; Address:
  High Street

William married Sarah Sibley in 1 Jan 1852-31 Mar 1852 in Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Sarah died in 1869. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  The Folly PH
• Alt. Birth: Bef 18 Nov 1832, Luton, Bedfordshire, England
• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Cross Keys, Gustard Wood, Hertfordshire, England; Norman Thrale, Nephew, unmarried 19 Miller journeyman born Luton, Beds Working for John & Mary Sibley, Shoemaker & Victualler
• Occupation: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 1891; Miller
• Residence: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 17 Mar 1875, Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Dwelling: Port Hill Common Census Place: Bengeo, Hertford, England Marr Age Sex Birthplace Norman THRALE Rel: Head Occ: C Miller M 49 M Luton, Bedford, England Caroline THRALE Rel: Wife M 39 F Codicote, Hertford, England Norman THRALE Rel: Son Occ: Scholar U 16 M Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Alice THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 12 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Rosa THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 10 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Charlotte THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 9 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Clara THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 6 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Ralph THRALE Rel: Son U 2 M Hertford, Hertford, England Infant THRALE Rel: Daur U 6d F Hertford, Hertford, England Sophia COBB Rel: Nurse Occ: Monthly Nurse S M S 59 F Kimpton, Hertford, England; Address:
  Port Hill Common
• Residence: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Port Hill Common

Norman married Caroline Welch on 1 Jun 1864 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Caroline (daughter of George Welch and Elizabeth Garrat) was born in 1842 in Codicote, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1884 in Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 3 Jul 1836, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1851; Daughter. Apprentice Bonnet sewer. Born Wheathampstead; : 14 years
• Census: 1871, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; THRALE William head widower 43yrs Born Luton, BED (Farmer of 76 acres) WILSHER Sarah servant unmar 30yrs Born Wheathampstead (Housekeeper) IVORY Fanny niece scholar 11yrs Born Ayot St Peter, Hertfordshire.; : 30 years
• Census: 1891, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; THRALE William Farmer WILSHER Sarah cousin 55yrs Servant BRACEY Emily servant 17yrs; : 55 years

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• Census: 1851; Son 16 yrs. Apprentice grocer. Born Wheathampstead

William married Phoebe Brown about 1862. Phoebe and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Occupation: Master baker
• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1851; Sources Son. Scholar; : 11 years
• Census: 1871, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Head 31 yrs. Master Baker. Born Wheathampstead The Wilsher family are living with their 2 children and Thomas's parents, John and Sarah Wilsher and Henry Pearce, an apprentice baker.; Address:
  The Folly PH
• Census: 1881, Gustard Wood, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Sarah Wilsher widow John Wilsher (son) and family

Thomas married Eliza Jane Tindall on 18 Oct 1863 in Islington, Middlesex, England, and was divorced. Eliza (daughter of George Henry Tindall and Hannah Taylor Gilbert) was born on 5 Dec 1845 in Woolwich, Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Sarah Catherine Squires on 16 Apr 1877 in Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Sarah was born before 31 Mar 1848 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 25 Feb 1843
• Census: 1851; Son. Scholar; : 8 years
• Census: 1881, Gustard Wood, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; WILSHER John head mar 38yrs Bootmaker Born Wheathampstead WILSHER Mary wife Born Hilton, Hunts WILSHER May Louise dau 4 yrs Born Gustard Wood WILSHER Eliza Ann dau 3 yrs Born Gustard Wood WILSHER Florence M. dau 7 mths Born Gustard Wood SIBLEY May Lodger 72 yrs widow Born Wheathampstead TURNER Thomas Lodger 52yrs unmar Born Wheathampstead WILSHER Sarah Lodger 74yrs widow Born Wheathampstead
• Census: 1891, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; WILSHER John head 47 yrs Bootmaker WILSHER Mary wife 48yrs WILSHER Mary Louisa 14yrs WILSHER Elizabeth Ann 13yrs WILSHER Florence May 10yrs TURNER Thomas 62yrs unmar Bootmaker SHELTON Sarah 57yrs unmar visitor

John married Mary Shelton (Martha) between 1 Oct 1875 and Dec 1875 in Westminster, Middlesex, England. Mary was born about 1843; died on 24 Apr 1927. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Baptism: 7 Aug 1844

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alias: Jonathan John Parsons

Family/Spouse: Mary Suzanna Smith. Mary was born in 1862; died in 1949. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Occupation: Part-time teacher

Notes:

Lived at home for some time and took about 5 pupils aged 6-11 years for a little pocket money.

Looked after both my parents until their death and was left what little money there was also furniture, etc.

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• Occupation: London, England; : Phoenix Insurance Co. Ltd

Family/Spouse: Ethel Bray. Ethel and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Occupation: Dartford, Kent, England; Veterinary Surgeon

Family/Spouse: Cathleen Edgar. Cathleen and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Occupation: Anglo Foreign Banking Co. Ltd.

Harold married Nellie Taylor on 7 Apr 1910 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Nellie (daughter of Samuel Taylor and Mary Segar) was born on 4 Sep 1880 in Leeds, Yorkshire, England; died on 20 Oct 1967 in Castro Valley, Alameda, California, USA; was buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Oakland, California, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Occupation: Governess
• Occupation: Nurse

Winifred married George Arnold Young on 21 Dec 1916 in Alfriston, Sussex, England. George and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Lawrence married Dorothy Hope Wise in 1921. Dorothy and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Not 100% certain about this individuals existance

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• Occupation: Dress maker
• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 32

Sarah married William Ducker in 1 Jul 1871-30 Sep 1871. William was born in 1843-1844 in Ratcliffe, Stepney, Middlesex, England; died in Jan-Mar 1885 in Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
Herts Guardian, Agricultural Journal and General Advertiser - Saturday 16 June 1855 ... ?Wheathampstead - On Saturday the 2nd isnt., an inquest was held at the Red Cow, before R.G.Lowe Esq., coroner, on the body of Thos. Thrale aged 4 years, son of Thomas Thrale, formerly baker in this place and now of London. The child became suddenly ill, and the grandmother of the child sent for Mr. Crisp, surgeon, who attended, and on his arrival pronounced the little sufferer in a dying state. Mr Crisp was of opinion that the deceased died from hydrocephalus. Verdict was given accordingly.?

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• Physical Description: William and his family were renowned for their sporting feats at all local contests.
• Residence: 21 Jun 1874, Bermondsey, Surrey, England
• Occupation: Between 17 Oct 1874 and 6 Jun 1888; Journeyman baker
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Rel: Head Occ: Journeyman Baker; : 27 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Occupation: Between 25 Jul 1881 and 20 Dec 1883; Watercress grower
• Census: 1891; : 36 years
• Occupation: 1891; General labourer
• Residence: 1891-18 Jan 1892, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Occupation: Between 20 May 1893 and 20 Jul 1896; Painter & Journeyman
• Residence: 20 May 1893, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  Church Street
• Occupation: 20 Feb 1899; Brewers labourer
• Census: 1901; Brewery labourer; : 48 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 57
• Occupation: 1911 - 28 Sept 1920; House painter and decorator
• Residence: 1918 - 9 Jun 1931, 1a Butlin Road, Luton, Bedfordshire, England

Notes:

Said to have been married three times and had 21 children and that Brian's father (Herbert Donald Thrale) was the youngest of 21, and that the third wife was Scottish. The records identified to date, do not confirm this.

William and his family were renowned for their sporting feats at all local contests

William married Sophia Jane McCulloch on 21 Jun 1874 in Saint Mary Magdelen, Bermondsey, Surrey, England. Sophia (daughter of John McCulloch and Mary Ann Lines) was born on 27 Aug 1853 in The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 2 Jan 1854 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died on 6 Mar 1915 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Mabel Shepherd on 23 Mar 1920 in Registry Office, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Mabel (daughter of George Shepherd and Mary Rogers) was born in Sep 1883; died in Jan - Mar 1961 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Unmarried; : 21 years; Address:
  High Street
• Residence: 14 Nov 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 30
• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Harriett married William Edward Hodson on 14 Nov 1881 in St Helens, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. William (son of William Hodson) was born before 1860; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Harriett married William Thomas Trustram in April 1902 - Jun 1902 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. William (son of John Trustram and Sarah) was born in Apr 1874 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 24 May 1874 in Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct-Dec 1924 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Norman Thrale
• Occupation: 1898, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Baker and confectioner ; Address:
  http://www.thrale.com/hannah_and_norman_thrale_shop
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, 31 Market Place, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England ; Baker and confectioner; : 55 years; Address:
  80 London Road
• Occupation: 31 Mar 1901, 31 Market Place, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England ; Baker and confectioner
• Occupation: 1904, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Baker and confectioner
• Occupation: 1912, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

The 1901 census age would make Ernest born when his mother was aged 4!

Ernest married Hannah Maria Green in 1896 in Beckenham, Kent, England. Hannah (daughter of George Alfred Green and Lucy Mason) was born about 1867 in Peckham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Witness to the wedding of her sister Alice Gertrude Thrale on 26 October 1891

Elizabeth married Thomas George Moss on 29 Jul 1897 in Elstree, Hertfordshire, England. Thomas was born in 1869; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar
• Residence: 26 Oct 1891, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; The Folly

Alice married Samuel Walls on 26 Oct 1891 in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. Samuel (son of James Abraham Walls) was born about 1868; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Oswald Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Wife; : 29
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 3 Hill St St Albans, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Wife; : 39

Rosa married Herbert Winters in Sep 1895 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Herbert (son of Noah Winters and Charlotte E) was born in Jan-Mar 1872 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct-Dec 1940 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Charlotte married James Thomas Bullard on 21 Oct 1897 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. James was born about 1871; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military Service: Ralph Thrale's war diaries are in the possession of Richard Thrale of Sandridgebury. Ralph Thrale's war medals are in the possession of Dennis Walker of Sussex.
• Occupation: Postman
• Census: 1881; Son, 2 years old.
• Occupation: 1917; Gunner 20567, 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery
• Property: 1918, Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Buried:
In Memory of RALPH THRALE

Gunner 20567 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery who died on Tuesday 19th February 1918. Age 39.

Additional Information - Son of Norman Thrale, of Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY, ARCADE, Italy Grave Reference/Panel Number: Plot 4. Row C. Grave 5. Location: The town of Giavera is in the Province of Treviso. It is 12 kilometres east of Montebelluna and 14 kilometres west of Conegliano on the main road between the two places. Giavera British Cemetery is 500 metres north-west of the town close to the church. - Historical Information: The Italians entered the war on the Allied side, declaring war on Austria, in May 1915. Commonwealth forces were at the Italian front between November 1917 and November 1918. On 4 December 1917, the X1th and XIVth Corps relieved the Italians on the Montello sector of the Piave front, with the French on their left. The Montello sector acted as a hinge to the whole Italian line, joining that portion facing north from Mount Tomba to Lake Garda with the defensive line of the River Piave covering Venice, which was held by the Third Italian Army. The Commonwealth troops on the sector were not involved in any large operations, but they carried out continuous patrol work across the River Piave, as well as much successful counter battery work. In January 1918, an additional sector of the defence on the right was taken over by the Commonwealth troops. Between December and March the Royal Flying Corps carried out a large number of successful raids on enemy aerodromes, railway junctions, and other objectives. In March 1918, the Commonwealth troops on the Montello sector were relieved. Three Divisions (7th, 48th and 23rd) took over the Asiago sector in the mountains north of Vicenza, and two Divisions (5th and 41st) were despatched to France. In October, the 7th and 23rd Divisions were withdrawn from the Asiago Plateau to take over the northern portion of the X1th Italian Corps front from Salletuol to Palazzon, on the River Piave. These Divisions took a prominent part in the Passage of the Piave (23 October-4 November 1918) during the final Battle of Vittorio-Veneto. On 4 November the Armistice came into effect, and active hostilities ceased. Men who died in defending the Piave from December 1917, to March, 1918, and those who fell on the west of the river during the Passage of the Piave, are buried in this cemetery. GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY contains 417 Commonwealth burials of the First World War. Within the cemetery stands the GIAVERA MEMORIAL, which commemorates more than 150 members of the Commonwealth forces who died in Italy in 1917 and 1918 and whose places of burial are unknown.

Ralph married Ellen Maud Taylor on 13 Aug 1913 in Hammersmith, Middlesex, England. Ellen (daughter of Edward Henry Taylor) was born on 19 Oct 1880 in Chiswick, Middlesex, England; died on 19 Oct 1957 in Chilworth, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Kate Thrale

Miriam married Tom Gaylard in 1 Oct 1918-31 Dec 1918 in Godstone, Surrey, England. Tom died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Daughter; : 6 days old

May married Andrew Goodman in 1 Jul 1928-30 Sep 1928 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Andrew (son of ? Goodman) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Catherine Clara Poole on 26 Apr 1888 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Catherine and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Julian Pierce. Julian and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Emma Burnoch. Emma and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Leonard married Sarah Jane Thompson on 18 Aug 1891 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Sarah and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Joseph Stacey. Joseph and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Madge Shail. Madge and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Gertrude Whetstone. Gertrude and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Laura married Alfred Richardson about 1918. Alfred and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Biscuit salesman
• Occupation: Brisbane, Australia; Confectioner & baker
• Census: 1871, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Son 6 yrs. Born Wheathampstead; Address:
  The Folly PH
• Emigration: 1884, Melbourne, Australia; Emigrated to Melbourne Australia to escape being made to go to Italy for singing lessons. He had a marvellous voice and sang in the choir at St Alban's Cathedral, Hertfordshire, England.; : 20

Thomas married Mary Brock Billows on 10 Nov 1885 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Mary (daughter of ? Brock and Ann Billows) was born about 1852 in Dorset, England; died on 13 Aug 1945 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1871; Born Wheathampstead; : 2 months; Address:
  The Folly

Family/Spouse: Harold Bachelor. Harold and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
Died aged 18 months

Family/Spouse: Ethel. Ethel died in 1966. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Suzanna married Arthur Ernest Sharp in 1916. Arthur was born in 1889; died in 1960. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Eadie?. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Herbert William James. Herbert was born in 1902; died in 1980. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Walter married Saidee Alice Coward on 7 Jun 1952 in Berkeley, Alameda, California, USA. Saidee was born on 31 Dec 1923 in Berkeley, Alameda, California, USA; died on 8 Jul 1982 in Oakland, Alameda, California, USA; was buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Oakland, California, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Phyllis married Bernie H Jones [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 8

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 6

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 3
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Living with grandmother Elizabeth Thrale née Peacock and aunt Harriet Hodson née Thrale; : 13

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Living with grandmother Elizabeth Thrale née Peacock and aunt Harriet Hodson née Thrale ; : 10

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; With grandparents Thomas and Elizabeth Thrale on night of census. Rel: G Son Occ: Scholar; : 6 years; Address:
  High Street
• Military Award: 1900; China War Medal
• Occupation: 30 Jun 1914, Singapore; Straits Settlements
• Residence: 30 Jun 1914, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  17 Ramsbury Road
• Occupation: 1928; Inspector of Police

Notes:

Military Award:
The China War of 1900-01 is more commonly referred to as the Boxer Rebellion. The Boxers formed a Chinese secret society known as the _I-ho-ch'uan_ - the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists (hence 'Boxers'). The Boxers and other similar societies aimed to eradicate all foreigners and Christians from China; the government under Dowager Empress Tzu His secretly supported these fanatical organisations.

At the end of the 19th century the Royal Garrison Artillery, which was part of the Royal Artillery, was divided into 3 Divisions:

1. The Eastern Division, HQ at Dover. Depot companies at Dover and Great Yarmouth.


2. The Southern Division, HQ at Portsmouth. Depot companies at Gosport and Seaforth (near Liverpool).


3. The Western Division, HQ at Devonport. Depot companies at Plymouth and Scarborough.

The Garrison Artillery was composed of 104 service companies in 1900, 40 of them in the UK, 37 in various colonies of the Empire and 27 in India. A company was commanded by a major with 6 or so officers, around 10 NCOs and 100 to 200 men.

The uniform of Garrison Artillery was the same as Field Artillery except that they were more likely to wear trousers instead of boots and breeches. On their shoulder straps were the initials of the name of their Division and the number of their company.

On 1 January 1902, the Divisional system was abolished and all companies RGA were re-numbered sequentially from 1 to 105. 2nd Company Southern Division became the 62nd Company RGA and the 15th Company Southern Division became the 91st Company RGA. The China 1900 Medal is normally named to one of these two companies.

The combination of QSA and China was awarded to nearly 500 soldiers of the Royal Garrison Artillery. Two companies were formed in South Africa for service in China. The Gunners came from 15 Company Western Division RGA, 15 Company Southern Division RGA and 2 Company Southern Division RGA. The men all earned the QSA, with up to four clasps, and the China medal, without clasp. The combination is certainly unusual, but it was 43 RGA reservists who earned themselves a rare combination - QSA, China and KSA, having been sent back to South Africa following service in China.

Much more can be learnt from the article written by Lt. Col. McaFarlane in the OMRS Journal Autumn 1993 - _'A slow boat to China - and back again'_ (Lt.Col.(Retd) A.M.Macfarlane), OMRS Journal, Autumn 1993, Volume 32, Number 3, pages 198-200:

In May 1900, 15 W.D. received four 9.45in. B.L. Howitzers, manufactured at the Skoda Works in Austria. Although the last word in heavy artillery, they were never actually fired in anger in South Africa. However, early in July 1900, it was decided to send a siege train armed with these howitzers, under the command of Colonel T. Perrott, from South Africa to join the China Expeditionary Force in the defeat of the Boxer Rebellion. The siege train was to consist of:

• Right Half 15 Company Southern Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers


• Right Half 15 Company Western Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers


• 2 Company Southern Division RGA - four 4.7in Q.F. guns

2 SD had eight officers and 184 men. The siege train assembled at Cape Town where it embarked in S.S. Antillian on 18th July 1900 and sailed on 23 July. The ship arrived at Singapore on 13 August, left there on 15 August, docked at Hong Kong on 22 August and eventually reached Wei-hai-wei, the base for the Expeditionary Force, on 30 August.

Of course, by that time, Pekin had been relieved and, apart from the odd raid, the Boxer Rebellion was as good as over. After two weeks spent on board ship, the siege train disembarked at Wei-hai-wei but, on 26 October, the two half companies [of the 15 SD and 15 WD] re-embarked on the S.S. Antillian and returned to Hong Kong for the winter, whilst 2 SD remained in garrison at Wei-hai-wei. None of the siege guns fired in anger in China.

Thomas married Hannah Maria Green on 30 Jun 1914 in Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Hannah (daughter of George Alfred Green and Lucy Mason) was born about 1867 in Peckham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Jack Thrale
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 5 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 1891; : 15 years
• Occupation: 1891; Errand boy
• Residence: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Residence: 5 Dec 1898, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1901; House painter; : 25 years
• Residence: 1901, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  Necton Road
• Occupation: 4 May 1911; House painter journeyman
• Occupation: 5 Dec 1898-24 Dec 1927; Painter / Journeyman. Latter date of 24 Dec 1927 is taken from marriage certificate of Son Wiliam Thomas Thrale and Brenda Priscilla Wright.

John married Rosetta Wright on 5 Jun 1898 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Rosetta (daughter of James Wright and Eliza Crawley) was born between 1877 and 1879; died on 28 Jan 1952; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 24 years

Notes:

No trace of Rose Thrale on Ancestry.com on Wednesday 30 March 2016

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Cissie Thrale
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 4 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 13 Dairy Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Dairy Work; : 34

Harriet married George Squires in 1 Jul 1898-30 Sep 1898 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. George was born on 25 Jan 1880 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1954 in Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 2; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, 119 Charing Cross Road, Soho, Middlesex, England; Servant, single

Notes:

The 1891 census lists a 23 year old Mary Thrale, born in Hertfordshire, working in St Anne's Parish Soho as a barmaid. This could be this Mary Thrale

Name:
Polly is a for diminutive Molly, which is a diminutive for Mary

Mary married Frederick W Eberwein in Oct-Dec 1911 in Willesden, Middlesex, England. Frederick and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Church of England
• Census: 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 1 year; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 1891, 36 Hatfield Road, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 11 years
• Census: 1901; Housepainter; : 21 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 Bull Yard, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; House painter; : 29
• Military Service: 04 Dec 1915 - 9 Apr 1919; Regimental number: 242756. Regiment: Royal Engineers. London Electrical Engineers.; : 36

Notes:

Military Service:
Attested: 4 December 1915
Reserves: 5 December 1915
Mobilised 1 March 1917
Demobilisation: 9 April 1919 with 'Sharp pleurisy pneumonia'.

Frederick married Maude Elizabeth Brazier (Emily) on 2 Aug 1902 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Maude (daughter of George Brazier and Sarah) was born in Jul - Sep 1884 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct - Dec 1962 in Hastings, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891; : 10 years
• Residence: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Census: 1901; : 20 years
• Occupation: 15 May 1905; Painter, Journeyman
• Occupation: 19 Sep 1931; House painter

Walter married Elizabeth Ray (Liza) on 28 Jan 1905 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Joseph Ray) was born in 1880 in Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died about 1962 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
The informant on her death certificate is J. M. C. C. McCulloch "Aunt" who was present at the death

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Maud Thrale
• Census: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 7 years; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road

Maud married Frank Collins in 1 Apr 1918-30 Jun 1918 in St Albans Cathedral, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Frank died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 4 years; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Census: 1901; Telegraph Messenger; : 15 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Plumber; : 25

Frank married Emily Bonham in Oct - Dec 1913. Emily (daughter of John Bonham) was born in 1886; died in Oct - Dec 1956 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891; : 2 years
• Residence: 1891, 36 Hatfield Road, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1901; : 12 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Bricklayer; : 23
• Occupation: 11 Apr 1914; Bricklayer
• Military Service: 1918; Sapper 159009, 106th Field Coy., Royal Engineers
• Residence: 1918, 74 Carvels Road, Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Died:
In Memory of CHARLES THRALE Sapper 159009 106th Field Coy., Royal Engineers who died on Tuesday 28th May 1918. Age 31.

Additional Information: Son of William Thrale, of 1a, Butlin Rd., Luton, Beds., and the late Sophia Thrale; husband of Edith May Thrale, of 74, Cravells Rd., Harpenden, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: SOISSONS MEMORIAL, Aisne, France Grave Reference/Panel Number: Location: The town of Soissons stands on the left bank of the River Aisne, approximately 100 kilometres north-east of Paris. The Soissons Memorial will be found in the public square. The memorial register is kept at the Mairie where it may be consulted. - Historical Information: The original British Expeditionary Force crossed the Aisne in August 1914 a few kilometres west of Soissons, and re-crossed it in September a few kilometres east. For the next three and a half years, this part of the front was held by French forces and the city remained within the range of German artillery. At the end of April 1918, five divisions of Commonwealth forces (IX Coprs) were posted to the French 6th Army in this sector to rest and refit following the German offensives on the Somme and Lys. Here, at the end of May, they found themselves facing the overwhelming German attack which, despite fierce opposition, pushed the Allies back across the Aisne to the Marne. Having suffered 15,000 fatal casualties, IX Corps was withdrawn from this front in early July but was replaced by XXII Corps, who took part in the Allied counterattack that had driven back the Germans by early August and recovered the lost ground. The Soissons Memorial commemorates almost 4,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom forces who died during the Battles of the Aisne and the Marne in 1918 and who have no known grave. The memorial was designed by G H Holt and V O Rees, with sculpture by Eric Kennington.

Charles married Edith May Curl on 11 Apr 1914 in Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England. Edith (daughter of George Curl) was born in 1 Jan 1886-31 Mar 1886 in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England; died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 9
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Single; : 20

Notes:

Died:
As no post mortem was deemed to be necessary, we assume that she suffered from this for some time.

Hermione married Edgar Wilsher in 1 Jul 1915-30 Sep 1915 in Paddington, Middlesex, England. Edgar (son of George New Wilshire and Sarah Mead) was born in 1 Apr 1886-30 Jun 1886; died in 1968 in Acton, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 7 years
• Occupation: 1 Mar 1916; Engineer

Alfred married Evelyn Mary Brown on 1 Mar 1916 in St Mary's Church, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Evelyn (daughter of Charles Brown) was born about 1892; died in 1 Apr 1953-30 Jun 1953 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Note: Luton FC supporter.
• Name: Herbert Donald Thrale
• Residence: Kilburn, Middlesex, England; Address:
  28 Chichelle Road
• Census: 1901; : 6 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Errand boy, single; : 16
• Physical Description: Sep 1914; Army medical examination on enlistment aged 19 years, 6 months. Height 5 feet 7 inches. 34" chest. Good vision and good physical development. However, daughter Olga Thrale later recalled that her father was Mum said he was 6ft 3 inches tall.
• Military Service: Sep 1914 - 05 May 1919; Enlisted with 17th County of London Battalion as Private 3097 in St Albans. Transferred to Royal Engineers. WR11368 & 551343. Transferred to Labour Corps 282425. Discharged at Purfleet Essex. Served in France. According to his son Brian Thrale, during WWI Herbert stabbed a German in the hand and ran away.
• Occupation: 28 Sep 1920-28 Aug 1928; Journeyman house painter
• Residence: 28 Aug 1928, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
• Residence: 1932 - 1935, 89 Netherwood Street, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
• Residence: 1949, 10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England
• Occupation: 4 Sep 1959; Turner, Clockmaker
• Residence: Bef 1960, 8a Leamington Road, West Hampstead, Middlesex, England
• Occupation: 18 Mar 1960; General labourer clock factory (retired)

Notes:

Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. Although, he could also sometime be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died.

Name:
Grandson Stacey Donald Thrale, named in his memory.

Died:
Certified after post-mortem without inquest. Herbert died from a heart attack on the toilet on the morning of his last day at work before he retired.

Herbert married Rose Spittle on 28 Sep 1920 in Registry Office, Willesden, Middlesex, England. Rose (daughter of Henry Charles Spittle and Elizabeth Chamberlain) was born on 15 Jan 1894 in 58 Church Street, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England; died on 9 Mar 1973 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England; was buried on 15 Mar 1973 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 4
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 14
• Residence: 1946, Muswell Hill, Middlesex, England; Address:
  38 Princess Avenue

Notes:

Drinker of sherry and very nice person.

Jessie married Flight Lieutenant William David Guyler (David) in 1 Jul 1918-30 Sep 1918 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England. William died on 11 May 1940 in Kranji, North West, Singapore. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Reginald married in 1 Jul 1931 - 31 Sep 1931 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 2 years

Notes:

No trace of any marriage for William Thrale born 1900 (+/- 2years) found on ancestry.com as of 28 March 2016.

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Frances married Edward W Horwood in Jan - Mar 1941 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt. Birth: 1896
• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; 80 London Road

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; 80 London Road

William married Vera Joyce Phillipson in 1 Jul 1926-30 Sep 1926 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Vera (daughter of Victor Edward Phillipson and Eliza Jane Atterbury) was born on 27 Jan 1903 in London, England; died in Jan 1984 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ralph married Gwendolen Elsie Randall in 1 Jul 1931-30 Sep 1931 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Gwendolen was born on 17 Sep 1906; died in Mar 2001 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Dorothy Moss

Family/Spouse: Stanley Richard Pankhurst. Stanley was born in 1907 in Surbiton, Surrey, England; died in 1983. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Caroline married Leonard Ellis in 1926. Leonard was born in 1897; died in 1994. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mildred married Norman Kenneth Walker on 11 Jan 1941 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Norman was born on 1 Feb 1921 in Wembley, Middlesex, England; died on 18 Jul 1985 in Gaithersburg, Montgomery, Maryland, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Edward Ivory. Edward and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Phyllis. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Frank Kimber. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Cyril Field. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Arthur William Brown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Joan married Horace Price Davies in 1940. Horace was born in 1916; died in 1986. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Gary married Teresa Marie Lazzarini [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Beverly married Merrill Willard Slocum [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Linda married Richard Michael Lenahan, Jr [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Glenn married Mary Anne Cynthia Cadotte [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Patricia married Orlando Bohorquez Hernandez [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 24 Dec 1927-30 May 1930; Tourist Agents Clerk
• Residence: 24 Dec 1927-30 May 1930, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

William married Brenda Priscilla Wright on 24 Dec 1927 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Brenda (daughter of William Wright) was born on 28 May 1901; died on 19 Oct 2001 in Dacorum, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Chilterns Crematorium, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 13 Dairy Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 12

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 13 Dairy Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 7

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 13 Dairy Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 4

Family/Spouse: Gerald Mardall. Gerald and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Percy married UnknownBirmingham, Warwickshire, England. Unknown and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Beattie Thrale

Notes:

Died:
Died from sunstroke when she went on holiday. The story has often been told at home that she went away for a week, enjoyed it so much she stayed for another. But the weather was too good and she died as described.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 19 Sep 1931, Luton, Bedfordshire, England; Hat polisher
• Residence: 19 Sep 1931, Luton, Bedfordshire, England; 61 Grange Road

Reginald married Edith May Fearn on 19 Sep 1931 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Edith (daughter of William John Fearn) was born on 19 Apr 1909; died on 22 Jul 1999. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Charles Gilbert Thrale

Notes:

My father met my mother during the war and they married soon after. I was born in Belgium but they decided to come back to England when I was a few weeks old. We made infrequent visits to Belgium whilst young but more so as we became older.

Family/Spouse: Gabrielle Belgian. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jeffrey married Sally Taylor [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Harlesden, Middlesex, England; His father moved in after his retirement; Address:
  Creffield Road

Notes:

Never married.

Roy married Joan Catherine Rosalin Charlwood in 1941. Joan (daughter of Louis Frederick Charlwood and Elizabeth Sales) was born in 1920; died in 1996. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Medical: Invalided from the Royal Air Force due to Tuberculosis

Trevor married Phyllis Smith [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jack married Doreen Wood [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Name:
H of middle name could arguably be Hermione after mother?

Notes:

My Nan was a wonderful lady, and very much a mother figure to me. They (her and my my grandfather) were both extremely kind, caring and helpful people. Two of a kind!! I know my nan lost contact with most of her family, mainly due to my pops mother. I'm sad to say she wasn't a very nice lady, very controlling and did not approve of the fun side of Nan's family. Although I do believe she kept in contact with a cousin. Nan worked in a bakery when I was very young and also for Lady Zia Werner school for the handicapped. She was a quiet lady on the outside, and had a well to do air about her, but one sniff of Babycham and she was off doing the conga round our street.

Gladys married Victor Harry Martin (Pop) on 20 Apr 1940 in St Matthews Parish Church, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Victor was born on 17 Oct 1916 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England; died on 03 Jan 1999 in Luton & Dunstable Hospital, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Hobbies: Loved ballet
• Property: 4 Aug 1959, Chase Cross, Romford, Essex, England; Address:
  221 Highfield Road
• Property: 23 May 2012; Address:
  10 Meadowlake Close
  Lincoln, Lincolnshire LN6 0UA

Notes:

Died:
Died at 17.30 in local nursing home.

Olga married Alfred Stanley Tobutt (Alf) in Jan - Mar 1945 in Hendon, Middlesex, England. Alfred was born on 29 Sep 1920 in Fulham, Middlesex, England; died on 7 Dec 2014. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Physical Description: 5'11'' slim blue eyes, black hair
• Education: Between 31 Aug 1936 and 30 Oct 1942; Childs Hill School. Leaving comments of headmaster were "Kenneth Thrale is a very intelligent boy and an enthusiastic worker. He is reliable and trustworthy."
• Hobbies: 1938; Boy Scout membership
• Military Service: 1944; Air Cadets
• Occupation: c. 1944-1945; General Post Office, telecommunications engineer. Left because he couldn't get up in the mornings. His foreman unsuccessfully went to visit Ken's parents to dissuade him from leaving the GPO.
• Residence: Between Apr 1959 and Sep 1959, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England; 10 Westcroft Way
• Residence: Between Oct 1959 and 5 Mar 1978, Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; Address:
  29a Doreen Avenue
• Property: 6 Mar 1978, Kingsbury, Middlesex, England; Address:
  96 Birchen Grove
• Occupation: 1950-1987; House painter and decorator
• Probate: 29 Oct 1987

Notes:

As a young child was close to his mother, always wanting to be around her.

Christened:
Sponsor: Frances Gatenby

Buried:
Service conducted in East Chapel. Ashes buried in Horder Garden, plot H15.

Kenneth married Shirley Helen Block on 04 Sep 1959 in Willesden, Middlesex, England. Shirley (daughter of Henry Block and Leah Abrahams) was born on 11 Jan 1937 in Mile End, Stepney, Middlesex, England; died on 27 Sep 2000 in Kensington, Middlesex, England; was cremated on 04 Oct 2000 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Frances married Ronald Nye [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 1953; Merchant Seaman
• Residence: 1955, Winchmore Hill, Middlesex, England

Family/Spouse: Marie Jennings. Marie and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Jill Nicholls [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Publication: 1952; A New Thraliana. A chronicle of the Thrale family of Hertfordshire.
• Publication: 1973; A New Thraliana
• Publication: 2005; A Newer Thraliana
• Obituary: 8 Nov 2007; Herts Advertiser 8 November 2007, page 4.
• Obituary: 28 Nov 2007; St Albans and Harpenden Review on 28 November 2007, pages 18 & 19.
• Property: 1978 - 2013, Sandridgebury, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Richard married Odile Isabelle Hoechstetter in 1958 in Le Vesinet, Paris, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jennifer married Colonel David J Milton [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Dennis Arthur Canfield. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Patricia married William Thomas VornDick [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Jane Elizabeth Pearce. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: ? Thiele. ? and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Emigration: Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Family/Spouse: Jackie. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Roger Smart. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Luton, Bedfordshire, England; Ashton Road

Trevor married Ilse Anni Karla Jakubassa (Anne) in 1951 in Scotland, and was divorced before 1959. Ilse was born in Husum, Niedersachsen, Germany; died before 11 Oct 2001. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Trevor married Evelyn Maud Blythe [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Josephine married Peter John Bell [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married Roy Vivian [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Linda Jennison. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Roger married Sarah Nash [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Gerald Law. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Living on 25 Mar 2005.

Notes:

Living on 25 Mar 2005.

Notes:

Living on 25 March 2005.