Ralph Thrale

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• Military Service: Ralph Thrale's war diaries are in the possession of Richard Thrale of Sandridgebury. Ralph Thrale's war medals are in the possession of Dennis Walker of Sussex.
• Occupation: Postman
• Census: 1881; Son, 2 years old.
• Occupation: 1917; Gunner 20567, 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery
• Property: 1918, Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Buried:
In Memory of RALPH THRALE

Gunner 20567 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery who died on Tuesday 19th February 1918. Age 39.

Additional Information - Son of Norman Thrale, of Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY, ARCADE, Italy Grave Reference/Panel Number: Plot 4. Row C. Grave 5. Location: The town of Giavera is in the Province of Treviso. It is 12 kilometres east of Montebelluna and 14 kilometres west of Conegliano on the main road between the two places. Giavera British Cemetery is 500 metres north-west of the town close to the church. - Historical Information: The Italians entered the war on the Allied side, declaring war on Austria, in May 1915. Commonwealth forces were at the Italian front between November 1917 and November 1918. On 4 December 1917, the X1th and XIVth Corps relieved the Italians on the Montello sector of the Piave front, with the French on their left. The Montello sector acted as a hinge to the whole Italian line, joining that portion facing north from Mount Tomba to Lake Garda with the defensive line of the River Piave covering Venice, which was held by the Third Italian Army. The Commonwealth troops on the sector were not involved in any large operations, but they carried out continuous patrol work across the River Piave, as well as much successful counter battery work. In January 1918, an additional sector of the defence on the right was taken over by the Commonwealth troops. Between December and March the Royal Flying Corps carried out a large number of successful raids on enemy aerodromes, railway junctions, and other objectives. In March 1918, the Commonwealth troops on the Montello sector were relieved. Three Divisions (7th, 48th and 23rd) took over the Asiago sector in the mountains north of Vicenza, and two Divisions (5th and 41st) were despatched to France. In October, the 7th and 23rd Divisions were withdrawn from the Asiago Plateau to take over the northern portion of the X1th Italian Corps front from Salletuol to Palazzon, on the River Piave. These Divisions took a prominent part in the Passage of the Piave (23 October-4 November 1918) during the final Battle of Vittorio-Veneto. On 4 November the Armistice came into effect, and active hostilities ceased. Men who died in defending the Piave from December 1917, to March, 1918, and those who fell on the west of the river during the Passage of the Piave, are buried in this cemetery. GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY contains 417 Commonwealth burials of the First World War. Within the cemetery stands the GIAVERA MEMORIAL, which commemorates more than 150 members of the Commonwealth forces who died in Italy in 1917 and 1918 and whose places of burial are unknown.

Ralph married Ellen Maud Taylor on 13 Aug 1913 in Hammersmith, Middlesex, England. Ellen (daughter of Edward Henry Taylor) was born on 19 Oct 1880 in Chiswick, Middlesex, England; died on 19 Oct 1957 in Chilworth, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Mildred May Thrale was born on 11 Mar 1915 in Hammersmith, Middlesex, England; died on 1 Jan 1995 in Maryland, USA.

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• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  The Folly PH
• Alt. Birth: Bef 18 Nov 1832, Luton, Bedfordshire, England
• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Cross Keys, Gustard Wood, Hertfordshire, England; Norman Thrale, Nephew, unmarried 19 Miller journeyman born Luton, Beds Working for John & Mary Sibley, Shoemaker & Victualler
• Occupation: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 1891; Miller
• Residence: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 17 Mar 1875, Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Dwelling: Port Hill Common Census Place: Bengeo, Hertford, England Marr Age Sex Birthplace Norman THRALE Rel: Head Occ: C Miller M 49 M Luton, Bedford, England Caroline THRALE Rel: Wife M 39 F Codicote, Hertford, England Norman THRALE Rel: Son Occ: Scholar U 16 M Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Alice THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 12 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Rosa THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 10 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Charlotte THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 9 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Clara THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 6 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Ralph THRALE Rel: Son U 2 M Hertford, Hertford, England Infant THRALE Rel: Daur U 6d F Hertford, Hertford, England Sophia COBB Rel: Nurse Occ: Monthly Nurse S M S 59 F Kimpton, Hertford, England; Address:
  Port Hill Common
• Residence: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Port Hill Common

Norman married Caroline Welch on 1 Jun 1864 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Caroline (daughter of George Welch and Elizabeth Garrat) was born in 1842 in Codicote, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1884 in Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

I noticed that Norman Thrale married Caroline Welch, possibly in Wheathampstead. I am very interested in knowing where she came from, as I am doing a family tree of the Welch family of Flamstead, Hertfordshire. I have gone back to 1767 but find I am stuck. Can you help please? Thank you.

Mrs M Mealey m.mealy@btopenwold.com

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Miller

Thomas married Sarah Thorpe in 1823 in Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Sarah was born in 1804; died in 1869. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

George married Elizabeth Garrat. Elizabeth and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Baptism: 16 Nov 1766, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

This shows that a Ralph Thale was buried at Flamstead, St Leonard on 7 April 1801. Noting that Abigail Burchmore was from Flamstead this might be the same Ralph?

See also: http://www.thrale.com/right_name_wrong_body

Ralph Thrale owned a goblet engraved with the initials "RT". See: http://www.thrale.com/ralph_thrales_goblet

Ralph married Abigail Burchmore on 29 Sep 1796 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Abigail (daughter of Thomas Burchmore and Sarah Andrews) was born about 1770 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 3 Aug 1796 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1863. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1841, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Grandchildren (sons of Abigail's son Thomas Thrale) Norman Thrale (aged 10) and William Thrale (aged 12) were living with "grumpy grandmother" Abigail Thrale née Burchmore.