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Baronet Sir John Lade

Baronet Sir John Lade

Male 1759 - Abt 1838  (78 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Baronet Sir John LadeBaronet Sir John Lade was born on 1 Aug 1759 (son of Baronet Sir John Lade, M.P. and Lady Mary Thrale); died about 1838.

    Notes:

    John inherited the baronetcy at his birth on the following August 1 after the death of his father (Gent. Mag. xxix. 194; lxxii. 376). He was made the ward of his uncle Henry Thrale 1724-1781 and fulfilled Dr. Johnson's worst predictions, becoming one of the notorious rakes of the Prince of Wales's circle, going through his own fortune and his mother's, which he inherited in 1802, and landing in King's Bench prison in 1813, whence Lady Keith (Queeney Thrale) tried to rescue him by appealing, in vain, to his former patron, the Prince Regent. Bowood Papers. Johnson sent the verses to Mrs. Thrale on August 8. Both the covering note and the verses are now in the Huntington Library. The verses were first published entire in Mrs. Piozzi's British Synonymy (1794) but the fourth stanza appeared in her Anecdotes (p. 281).

    One of Henry Thrale?s sisters was Lady Mary Lade (1733-1802), who married Baronet Sir John Lade on 27 May 1756. They had a son, also called John who inherited his father?s fortune and Baronetcy. Sir John Lade the junior was made ward of Henry Thrale, but when freed of this he took Samuel Johnson's advice and became a notorious rake.

    See: http://www.thrale.com/sir_john_lade

    John married Lady Letitia Derby about 1787. Letitia died in 1825. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Baronet Sir John Lade, M.P. was born about 1690 (son of John Inskip); died on 21 Apr 1759; was buried in Warbleton, Sussex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Property: Etchingham, Sussex, England; Estate at Etchingham, bought by his guardians when he came of age
    • Residence: Warbleton, Sussex, England
    • Occupation: 1751-1775, Camelford, Cornwall, England; Member of Parliament

    Notes:

    Sir John Lade. 1st Baronet of Warbelton, Sussex. Was made a Baronet in March 1758

    Samuel Johnson wrote some verses on the new Sir John's coming of age, remarking on his extravagance which his life as a friend of the Prince Regent eroded most of his inherited fortune! He died as a result of a fall from his horse, which was before the birth of his son John.

    The posthumous son of John Inskip, who married Mary Thrale, Henry Thrale's sister, in 1755, was made a baronet in March, 1758, under the name of John Lade, and died on April 21, 1759, from blood poisoning that resulted from the breaking of a leg in hunting

    It is speculated that she bore an illegitimate child for Colonel Sir Philip Jennings Clerke M.P. (died 1788) after the death of her husband Sir John Lade.

    John married Lady Mary Thrale in Jun 1756. Mary (daughter of Ralph Thrale, M.P. and Mary Dabbins) was born in 1733 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1802 in Saint Michaels, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 31 Mar 1802 in Warbleton, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Lady Mary Thrale was born in 1733 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England (daughter of Ralph Thrale, M.P. and Mary Dabbins); died in 1802 in Saint Michaels, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 31 Mar 1802 in Warbleton, Sussex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Will: Died intestate

    Notes:

    In The Diary and Letters of Madame D'Arblay, Volume 1, Fanny Burney wrote…

    "Lady Ladd; I ought to have begun with her. I beg her ladyship a thousand pardons–though if she knew My offence, I am sure I should not obtain one. She is own sister to Mr. Thrale.

    She is a tall and stout woman, has an air of mingled dignity and haughtiness, both of which wear off in conversation. She dresses very youthful and gaily, and attends to her person with no little complacency. She appears to me uncultivated in knowledge, though an adept in the manners of the world, And all that. She chooses to be much more lively than her brother; but liveliness sits as awkwardly upon her as her pink ribbons.

    In talking her over with Mrs Thrale who has a very proper regard for her, but who, I am sure, cannot be blind to her faults, she gave me another proof to those I have already of the uncontrolled freedom of speech which Dr. Johnson exercised to everybody, and which everybody receives quietly from him.

    Lady Ladd has been very handsome, but is now, I think, quite ugly–at least she has the sort of face I like not. she was a little while ago dressed in so showy a manner as to attract the doctor's notice, and when he had looked at her some time, he broke out aloud into this quotation:

    "With patches, paint, and jewels on, Sure Phillis is not twenty-one But if at night you Phillis see, The dame at least is forty-three!"

    I don't recollect the verses exactly, but such was their purport.

    "However," said Mrs. Thrale, "Lady Ladd took it very good- naturedly, and only said, 'I know enough of that forty-three?I don't desire to hear any more of it.'"

    Buried:
    The Parish Register entry in Warbleton, Sussex for the burial of Lady Ann Lade 31 March 1802 notes that she was brought from St. Albans

    Children:
    1. 1. Baronet Sir John Lade was born on 1 Aug 1759; died about 1838.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John Inskip and died.
    Children:
    1. 2. Baronet Sir John Lade, M.P. was born about 1690; died on 21 Apr 1759; was buried in Warbleton, Sussex, England.

  2. 6.  Ralph Thrale, M.P.Ralph Thrale, M.P. was born in 1698 in Offley, Hertfordshire, England (son of Ralph Thrale and Anne Halsey); died on 9 Apr 1758; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Obituary: Upon his death a popular London Magazine of the time described Ralph as "the greatest brewer in England". Grand Magazine I, 203.
    • Occupation: Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; Brewer
    • Occupation: Surrey, England; High Sheriff
    • Occupation: Anchor Brewery, Southwark, Surrey, England; Master of The Brewers Company
    • Residence: Brighton, Sussex, England; Address:
      64 West Street
      http://www.thrale.com/brighton
    • Occupation: 1741-1747, Southwark, Surrey, England; Member of Parliament
    • Property: 25 Feb 1747, Old Bailey, Middlesex, England

    Notes:

    See also: http://www.thrale.com/ralph_thrale_mp_owner_1729_1758

    Ralph married Mary Dabbins. Mary died about 1760. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 7.  Mary Dabbins died about 1760.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Name: Mary Dobbins
    • Name: Mary Dobbinson

    Children:
    1. Henry Thrale, M.P. was born between 1724 and 1730 in Harrow Corner, Southwark, Surrey, England; died on 4 Apr 1781 in Grosvenor Square, Middlesex, England; was buried on 11 Apr 1781 in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.
    2. Frances Thrale was born in 1726 in Lower Tooting, Surrey, England; died in 1811.
    3. 3. Lady Mary Thrale was born in 1733 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1802 in Saint Michaels, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 31 Mar 1802 in Warbleton, Sussex, England.
    4. Susannah Thrale was born after 1733; died in 1789.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Ralph Thrale was christened on 4 Sep 1665 in Saint Leonards Church, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England (son of Richard Thrale and Susan Thrale); died in 1711.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Cottager
    • Residence: Offley, Hertfordshire, England; Offley
    • Note: 1697, Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
    • Religion: 1702; Sacrament certificate signed by Ralph Thrale

    Notes:

    Residence:
    Moved to Offley from Sandridge

    Note:
    Elizabeth Zarvite, wife of Francis Zarvite, was attacked by other women for breaking marriage vows by consorting with Ralph Thrale

    Ralph married Anne Halsey on 7 Sep 1693 in St James Garlickhythe, Middlesex, England. Anne (daughter of ? Halsey) died in 1704. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Anne Halsey (daughter of ? Halsey); died in 1704.
    Children:
    1. Anna Thrale died in 1770.
    2. Susan Thrale died in 1711.
    3. 6. Ralph Thrale, M.P. was born in 1698 in Offley, Hertfordshire, England; died on 9 Apr 1758; was buried in Saint Leonards Church, Streatham, Surrey, England.