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751 She was unmarried. See also: http://www.thrale.com/susannah_arabella_thrale Thrale (Gilly or Little Crab), Susannah Arabella (I93)
 
752 Short and heavy-bodied, about four feet eleven inches tall. Smith, Esther M (I769)
 
753 Sir John Lade. 1st Baronet of Warbelton, Sussex. Was made a Baronet in March 1758

Samuel Johnson wrote some verses on the new Sir John's coming of age, remarking on his extravagance which his life as a friend of the Prince Regent eroded most of his inherited fortune! He died as a result of a fall from his horse, which was before the birth of his son John.

The posthumous son of John Inskip, who married Mary Thrale, Henry Thrale's sister, in 1755, was made a baronet in March, 1758, under the name of John Lade, and died on April 21, 1759, from blood poisoning that resulted from the breaking of a leg in hunting 
Lade, Baronet Sir John M.P. (I89)
 
754 Sir Joshua Reynolds portrait of Sophy is now at believed to be at Bowood House. Thrale, Sophia (I95)
 
755 Sir Roland de Velville (also spelt Vielleville, Veleville or, probably more correctly, Vieilleville), Constable of Beaumaris Castle from 1509 to 1535 is reputed to have been a natural son of Henry VII, born to a Breton lady while Henry was in exile in Brittany between 1471 and 1485. de Velville, Sir Rowland (I803)
 
756 Soldier in US revolution Thrall, Samuel (I351)
 
757 Soldiers & Sailors' Home Thrall, George (I1497)
 
758 Son of the Earl of Jersey Villiers (Jack), Honorable Augustus John Child (I99)
 
759 Sophia's memorial is at Weston near Bath, England and was Erected by her sister Sidney Arabella Cotton

"Here the Remains of Sophia Cotton are deposited by her Sister; whose Regret for the Loss of her personal Friendship, can only be alleviated by the Recollection of her Virtues; And by the performance of her own Duty in thus recording them." 
Cotton, Sophia (I673)
 
760 Soprona's baptism date may have been 1929. Thrall, Sophrona (I178)
 
761 Spelled Kosky and Koski, but more likely to have been Koski. Koski (David), Joseph (I1658)
 
762 Spelling of birthplace maay have been Muryland. Willard, Eliza A (I167)
 
763 Spent all his life in banking from 17 years of age, aside from war service. Thrall, Theron Roach (I3110)
 
764 Sponsor: Frances Gatenby Thrale (Migolie), Kenneth David (I146)
 
765 St Leonards Monumental Inscriptions says he was aged 46 years at his death on 29 Oct 1932 Cox, Jonathan (I45907)
 
766 Started professional military career as a pay clerk in 1882 under his uncle, Major W.R. Gibson at Fort Leavensworth, Kansas. Also served in the Philippines and at Cera Cruz, Mexico in 1916. At the outbreak of the World War, he went to Camp Greene, S.C. as Finance Officer. He retired 1 September 1920. Thrall, Captain William Walter (I2222)
 
767 Steve Thrall attended Troy Conference Academy in Poultney, Vermont (now known as Green Mountain College) then Colgate University, graduating in 1922. Later he took graduate work in accounting. After trying tne lumber business, he found his real interest lay in selling. He joined the National Cash Register Company in their Rochester, New York branch in 1924. Since then, he has held many jobs with this firm during the past 38 years, salesman, agent, instructor, divisional manager, assistant sales manager and now branch manager in Boston, Mass. For thirty years, he has been either training salesmen, supervising salesmen or selecting salesmen. His keen sense of the appropriate and his remarkable ability to "sell" his ideas, are major reasons for his outstanding success as a salesman and business leader. He has served Colgate University as Chairman of the Student Selection Committee in Eastern Massachusetts, and Director. and President of the Colgate Alumni Corporation.

He is presently (1965) Treasurer of the Board of Trustees of Green Mountain College, Governor of the Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants, Past President of Rotary, Vice-President of Vermont Historical Society, Member of the Board of Society of Colonial Wars and New England Genealogical and Historical Society.

Steve Thrall has spent many leisure hours during the past five years, working on this genealogy. He has written to hundreds of Thralls all over the united States, and has brought forward nany of the lines that were not previously recorded. In 1957 he compiled and edited a genealogy of his wife's family entitled "James Monroe Goodell and his wife, Emily lingsbury. Their Ancestors and Descendants."

Steve is a member of The Country Club, Veston Golf Club, Everglades Club in Florida, Essex Club in Nswark, Algonquin Club, Wianno Club. He is an Bpiscopalian, Mason and Republican. 
Thrall, Durward Stephen (I2738)
 
768 Still alive in 1965 Thrall, Theron Roach (I3110)
 
769 Tall, slender, good conversationalist, a leader in the Trinity Church and in Rutland's social life. Thrall, Charlotte B (I480)
 
770 Taught Latin and Greek. Thrall, Rev. Joseph Brainerd (I1804)
 
771 The 1790 census of New York list him with a wife, four sons and three daughters. The name of only one daughter has been found. The name was spelled Aaron Griswell. Montgomery County, Caughnawaga Town. Two white males above 16 years of age including head of families. Three white males under 16 years of age. Four white females including heads of families. Griswold, Aaron (I1034)
 
772 The 1891 census lists a 23 year old Mary Thrale, born in Hertfordshire, working in St Anne's Parish Soho as a barmaid. This could be this Mary Thrale Thrale (Polly), Mary Ann (I612)
 
773 The 1901 census age would make Ernest born when his mother was aged 4! Thrale, Ernest Norman (I263)
 
774 The 1901 census also lists an Ellen LePine as living with them as a 17 year old servant Family: Ernest Norman Thrale / Hannah Maria Green (F144)
 
775 The 1911 census declared that Henry and Elizabeth had 8 children born alive. 1 dead. 7 still living.  Family: Henry Charles Spittle / Elizabeth Chamberlain (F89)
 
776 The 1911 Census lists a Solly Karansky aged 7. At 20 King Edward St, Whitechapel, London. Also listed. Sister Kate aged 4, Brother Alick aged 11 and mother Leah aged 38 (widow). Leah is listed as being married 12 years, having 6 kids, of which 3 were still alive. All born in Whitechapel, London except Leah who was from Russia and is listed as a "Nurse Monthly". These potential relations not added to tree, as it is not yet clear that this is the same individual as our Solomon. Karansky, Solomon (I1862)
 
777 The American Civil War stopped all private banking, so George bought farm lands in Wisconsin, but he did not personally operate them. He sold them in 1874 and went to Eureka, Kansas accompanied by sons George and Frank. Thrall, George Evans (I1628)
 
778 The Andersons lived across the Great River in East Windsor, Connecticut, USA. Anderson, Martha (I203)
 
779 The birth and marriage years in A New Thraliana cannot be accurate, as they make her aged 9 or 10 years at marriage! Preston, Clara (I1076)
 
780 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Family: Stacey Donald Thrale / Charlotte Louise Prescott (F842)
 
781 The China War of 1900-01 is more commonly referred to as the Boxer Rebellion. The Boxers formed a Chinese secret society known as the _I-ho-ch'uan_ - the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists (hence 'Boxers'). The Boxers and other similar societies aimed to eradicate all foreigners and Christians from China; the government under Dowager Empress Tzu His secretly supported these fanatical organisations.

At the end of the 19th century the Royal Garrison Artillery, which was part of the Royal Artillery, was divided into 3 Divisions:

  1. The Eastern Division, HQ at Dover. Depot companies at Dover and Great Yarmouth.

  2. The Southern Division, HQ at Portsmouth. Depot companies at Gosport and Seaforth (near Liverpool).

  3. The Western Division, HQ at Devonport. Depot companies at Plymouth and Scarborough.


The Garrison Artillery was composed of 104 service companies in 1900, 40 of them in the UK, 37 in various colonies of the Empire and 27 in India. A company was commanded by a major with 6 or so officers, around 10 NCOs and 100 to 200 men.

The uniform of Garrison Artillery was the same as Field Artillery except that they were more likely to wear trousers instead of boots and breeches. On their shoulder straps were the initials of the name of their Division and the number of their company.

On 1 January 1902, the Divisional system was abolished and all companies RGA were re-numbered sequentially from 1 to 105. 2nd Company Southern Division became the 62nd Company RGA and the 15th Company Southern Division became the 91st Company RGA. The China 1900 Medal is normally named to one of these two companies.

The combination of QSA and China was awarded to nearly 500 soldiers of the Royal Garrison Artillery. Two companies were formed in South Africa for service in China. The Gunners came from 15 Company Western Division RGA, 15 Company Southern Division RGA and 2 Company Southern Division RGA. The men all earned the QSA, with up to four clasps, and the China medal, without clasp. The combination is certainly unusual, but it was 43 RGA reservists who earned themselves a rare combination - QSA, China and KSA, having been sent back to South Africa following service in China.

Much more can be learnt from the article written by Lt. Col. McaFarlane in the OMRS Journal Autumn 1993 - _'A slow boat to China - and back again'_ (Lt.Col.(Retd) A.M.Macfarlane), OMRS Journal, Autumn 1993, Volume 32, Number 3, pages 198-200:

In May 1900, 15 W.D. received four 9.45in. B.L. Howitzers, manufactured at the Skoda Works in Austria. Although the last word in heavy artillery, they were never actually fired in anger in South Africa. However, early in July 1900, it was decided to send a siege train armed with these howitzers, under the command of Colonel T. Perrott, from South Africa to join the China Expeditionary Force in the defeat of the Boxer Rebellion. The siege train was to consist of:

  • Right Half 15 Company Southern Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers

  • Right Half 15 Company Western Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers

  • 2 Company Southern Division RGA - four 4.7in Q.F. guns


2 SD had eight officers and 184 men. The siege train assembled at Cape Town where it embarked in S.S. Antillian on 18th July 1900 and sailed on 23 July. The ship arrived at Singapore on 13 August, left there on 15 August, docked at Hong Kong on 22 August and eventually reached Wei-hai-wei, the base for the Expeditionary Force, on 30 August.

Of course, by that time, Pekin had been relieved and, apart from the odd raid, the Boxer Rebellion was as good as over. After two weeks spent on board ship, the siege train disembarked at Wei-hai-wei but, on 26 October, the two half companies [of the 15 SD and 15 WD] re-embarked on the S.S. Antillian and returned to Hong Kong for the winter, whilst 2 SD remained in garrison at Wei-hai-wei. None of the siege guns fired in anger in China. 
Thrale, Inspector Thomas William (I223)
 
782 The decendency shows two sons named Ezra, with two estimated birthdates. Wilcox, Sgt. Ezra (I107)
 
783 The England Marriages 1538-1973 index shows a Thomas Thrale marrying a Frances Broughton on 5 August 1652 at St Brides in Fleet Street London Family: Thomas Thrale / (F70)
 
784 The family tree printed on page 198 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale shows an Elizabeth Thrale (as the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) but shows her as being married to Charles Parsons in 1813.

This is correctly shown on this family tree on Thrale.com as the following individual: http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I281&tree=tree01

HOWEVER, the family tree printed on page 182 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale says that Elizabeth Thrale 1760 - 1816 (which it says is the Elizabeth Thrale that was the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) was married to Thomas Burchmore 1760-1816.

This family tree on Thrale.com, records Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Burchmore as a different individual, with unidentified parents and no children. http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I492&tree=tree01

24 October 2016 - Further research is required 
Elizabeth (I492)
 
785 The family tree printed on page 198 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale shows an Elizabeth Thrale (as the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) but shows her as being married to Charles Parsons in 1813.

This is correctly shown on this family tree on Thrale.com as the following individual: http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I281&tree=tree01

HOWEVER, the family tree printed on page 182 of A Newer Thraliana by Richard Thrale says that Elizabeth Thrale 1760 - 1816 (which it says is the Elizabeth Thrale that was the daughter of Thomas Thrale and Mary Wilson, and the grand-daughter of Thomas Thrale and Anne Parsons) was married to Thomas Burchmore 1760-1816.

This family tree on Thrale.com, records Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Burchmore as a different individual, with unidentified parents and no children. http://www.thrale.com/sites/all/libraries/tng/getperson.php?personID=I492&tree=tree01

24 October 2016 - Further research is required 
Thrale, Elizabeth (I281)
 
786 The first female graduate of McKendree College. Flint, Edith (I1736)
 
787 The first woman to be elected to the Connecticut General Assembly from Windsor in 1943. Thrall, Hazel May (I2603)
 
788 The following verses were written by her husband Walter after Lydia's death...

"THE MOURNING HUSBAND.

Though God oÂ’erwhelms with sovereign stroke, And blasts my dearest pleasures here, His cheering smiles IÂ’ll still invoke And love, and trust, and hope and fear.

Though clouds may hide his smiling face, His chastenings, and his love unite, In darkest hours, his sovereign grace, Like bow of promise, cheers my sight.

He leads me on through lifeÂ’s dark path With future wisely hid from view; I feel the tokens of his wrath Mingled with blessings not a few.

Such sorrow fills my wounded heart, As friends, or strangers, cannot tell; God has taken my better part, Yet I would worship, and be still.

The world to me is clad in gloom, Its pleasures dim with grief, alloy, For lo! the dark insatiate tomb Hides now the relic of lifeÂ’s joy.

Yet hope inspires my soul to trust, And may that hope neÂ’er prove in vain, That Christ will raise that precious dust, And I shall see her yet again.

Strong faith presents her to my sight, For ever fixed in heavenly home, Arrayed in robes of purest light And beckoning me with smiles to come.

In glorious hopes, my soulÂ’s delight, To live in day, without the night; No more to sin, no more to die, To live with God, and friends on high.

By night, by day, my thoughts ascend, And rove through heavenly scenes above; Angels I pass, to meet my friend, And Saviour too, with equal love.

But when the happy visions fade, I realize IÂ’m here below— A pilgrim walking in the shade, Of deathÂ’s dark monument of woe." 
Skinner, Lydia (I561)
 
789 The following verses written by her father were inscribed on her tombstone ... "In youth and health she meekly sought, And found the robe which Jesus wrought; In that arrayed, deathÂ’s vale she trod, And calmly went to meet her God." Thrall, Cynthia Maria (I562)
 
790 The GRO has a marriage for a Stanley V Thrale in the sept 1920 qtr at West Ham vol 4a 880. This Stanley V would have been aged 24 at that time Thrale, Stanley Victor (I1040)
 
791 The GRO lists a Sarah Thrale as dying in the June 1907 qtr in Staines aged 85. Vol 3a page 2. Thrale, Sarah (I957)
 
792 The informant on her death certificate is J. M. C. C. McCulloch "Aunt" who was present at the death Thrale, Emily Maud (I1154)
 
793 The Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 at film number 001855874, lists a marriage between Mirian Emeline Miller and Eustace Augustus Brown (son of Thomas Miller) at Hanover, Green Island, Hanover, Jamaica. However the date of marriage is 7 Sep 1935, which is 14 years after the birth of their son. It is pretty likely that this marriage record is for Herbert Altamont Brown's parents, but some additional evidence would be nice before this is confirmed. Family: Eustace Brown / Emiline Miller (F884)
 
794 The Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 on Ancestry.com shows a Ebenezer McLaggan (son of William Louis McLaggan) marrying Angelina Grant on 26 May 1907 in Saint Catherine, Saint Catherine, Jamaica. However, I suspect it may not be the right person as the marriage date seems too late, as his son married in 1908.

However, the Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 on Ancestry.com show that Angelina died on 25 Feb 1948 aged 90 (born about 1858). This in 1907 when she and Ebenezer married, she would have been aged 49. So perhaps this was a second marriage and perhaps the above is our Ebenezer? 
McLaggan (Jack), Ebenezer (I712)
 
795 The marriage dat on page 6 of the Thrall Genealogy by Stephen D Thrall is incorrect, it was 4 years after she died! Family: John Warham Strong / Abigail Thrall (F318)
 
796 The marriage of Levi Whiting Thrall into the Beecher family, made Henry Ward Beecher, the famous preacher, Harriet Beecher Stowe, the writer, and Govenor Hawley of Connecticut, close cousins. Thrall, Levi Whiting (I1470)
 
797 The National Burial Index for England and Wales records an Anne Norman, born 1732, buried 9 March 1806 in St Botolph, Boston, Lincolnshire, England Thrale, Anne (I52)
 
798 The Parish Register entry in Warbleton, Sussex for the burial of Lady Ann Lade 31 March 1802 notes that she was brought from St. Albans Thrale, Lady Mary (I85)
 
799 The Pratt family was one of the founders of Granville, Ohio, USA. Pratt, Major Benjamin (I2122)
 
800 The Salusbury family were at a low ebb. This disgrace brought about a separation between John and Ursula, which I believe is described in the highly allusive 'Love's Martyr' by Robert Chester, a retainer in the Salusbury household, and in Shakespeare's poem 'The Phoenix and the Turtle' which I believe was written during this period.

However, love triumphed over circumstances, and the two (the faithful turtle-dove, John Salusbury and Ursula, the colourful and high-born phoenix) were married to great ceremony (a masque being specially written for the occasion) at Lleweni, Denbigh, in December 1586. 
Salusbury, Sir John (I812)
 

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